We didn’t like them during WWII either. For the first bit of it the soviets were aligned with the Nazis until Hitler turned on them. Then we just had a common enemy. We went right back to hating each other before the dust even settled when they tried to claim that we took Hitler alive and were hiding him.
The fuck are you guys talking about?
The right-wing love-hate relationship with Russia. Right now it’s at ‘love’.
They’re shipping Trump/Putin in some sick fan fiction.
I don’t know about every conservative, but me and every other conservative I know hates Russia.
I’ve known some anti-Russian conservatives, but unfortunately, there is a significant portion of conservatives, mostly Trump cultists, who have effortlessly made the swap into believing that Russia is defending White Christian Civilization against the Woke Hordes.
Memes are, by their nature, reductive, so if this doesn’t apply to you, I don’t mean to assert otherwise. My own mother is a conservative, if a somewhat odd one, who does not support Russia. But there is a major current of pro-Russian sentiment and ‘neutral’ ‘just asking questions’ coursing through modern American conservatism.
@Blamemeta Trump, his administration, the NRA astonishingly - remember Maria Butina and her boyfriend, the GOP operative?, “Sherriff” Clarke, Roger Stone, the traitor Gen. Mike Flynn, Rep. Dana Rohrbacker, Formerly of Fox News Tuckyeo Rose Carlson, MGT, Matt and Mercedes Shlapp of CPAP, Devin Nunes, and I could go on and on. I grew up during the Cold War and no one hates the fucking Putinistas more than I do. The Putinistas are all conservatives, or claim to be. Reagan must be rolling in his grave.
The US is exactly where Reagan wanted us to be. If Russia is required to maintain that status, he would have sided with them in a second.
@Lapus If you mean leading an aligned NATO from a position of strength, then I would probably agree, even though I’m not a fan of Reagan and even though Trump and is evil goblins did their best to dismantle US and NATO security, which Biden has built back with the coalition in support of Ukraine. I disagree with your second statement.
When I was answering you, I really didn’t convey my point well, actually at all.
My trust point was, based on his trickle down economics and being with the rich. I would guess in this time he would sore with roadies if that’s what it took to get his agenda across.
As your answer is thoughtful and educated, I would be privileged to learn from you.
Thank you for not roasting me. I appreciate that.
@Lapus Thank you - I’m just a guy on the internet. Others in this thread agree with you, I’m not here to roast or educate anyone. Cheers, my friend.
I disagree, honestly. Reagan would’ve sided with Russia in an instant, especially if it meant getting one over on the liberals. Remember that he accused the milquetoast American left of having gone ‘so far left they left America’.
Reagan’s opposition was to communism, not to regional powers enforcing their hegemony over smaller states. Ukraine would be sacrificed in an instant. It’s doubtful that he’d have any moral opposition, considering the shitbags he was fond of supporting.
@PugJesus That was a good line, but he was a very effective communicator. In my view, Reagan wanted what happened to happen - for the Soviet Union to collapse. “Mr. Gobachev, tear down this wall!” The US fucked up a once-in-a-millenium opportunity after the collapse, but that is another topic. After Vietnam, other than in Central America - Nicaragua, El Salvador, Honduras which were in our sphere of influence, no American President was going to meddle in a regional conflict. Moral opposition doesn’t mean anything to anybody, but that is realpolitic.
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Out of curiosity, are you on Mastodon? Is that why you added the @Blamemeta?
@Blamemeta No, not on Mastodon. Just showed up when I replied earlier. No idea why
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