• Ephera@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    I’ve recently been trying out living vegan, mostly on the basis of “Why not?”. I’m lactose-intolerant anyways and supermarkets have plenty vegan foods around here.

    Problem is, when I say “recently”, I actually mean multiple years ago and I’m at the point where randomly eating non-vegan food can throw my body into unforeseen consequences, so I avoid it nonetheless.

    Well, my parents came to visit this week and we went to this bakery place, which also has options for lunch.
    Last time we were there, I ate a bun with a salad without the dressing, because they didn’t have just vinegar+oil dressing.

    Which is a sorry excuse for a lunch, but the best they have, so this time, I went to order the same. But then the lady behind the counter told me that they didn’t have salads today, and asked whether I want something else instead.
    So, I evaluated my options – sorry, not plural – there was only one option: I guess, I’ll have another bun with my bun.

    Fucking hell.

    Like, I kind of don’t care. I went home afterwards and cooked myself much nicer food than my parents got.
    But just the look from that lady, as I basically told her, I literally do not want any of the other foods you have in stock. I’d rather eat two dry buns, even though I just wanted a salad.

    So, yeah, I wish just some fucking iceberg lettuce on bread was always an option.

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      11 months ago

      I’m a vegan who is allergic to wheat and corn. But I can have all the damn gluten I want without consequences. Have you noticed that a ton of vegan food is also gluten free? People hear “wheat allergy” and think “gluten!”, so invariably I get “Oh don’t worry, we have gluten free!” with a look on their face like they just solved the world’s toughest puzzle.

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          11 months ago

          Next time you’re at the grocery store, take a look at the ingredients in gluten free bread or gluten free bread flour. They still use wheat. Gluten can be “washed” out of wheat flour, leaving other proteins behind.

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            11 months ago

            Which ones still use wheat?

            All the ones I’ve ever seen use a mix of gluten-free starches and flours - rice flour, corn flour, tapioca, sorghum, potato starch, etc.

            Edit: googling around, its apparently actually a thing, but it’s pretty rare.

            It actually works in reverse: by making a dough and washing it, starch washes out and leaves gluten and the rest of the flour.

            If you dry the wash water, you’re left with wheat starch, which if you’re careful enough can be gluten free. It can be added to a gluten free flour mix in the same way that you’d use corn starch and potato starch.

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              11 months ago

              King Arthur brand, for one uses wheat.

              I’m allergic to corn as well, so for me personally it’s not worth eating at restaurants or friends houses where I can’t read all the ingredients used

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          11 months ago

          It is, and I don’t. It’s a lot easier to get by if there’s a variety of Asian restaurants that have rice noodles or rice dishes, but I live in a rural area without those. I’m in the hospital right now though, and for the first two weeks I couldn’t get them to stop trying to feed me gluten free food lol

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        11 months ago

        Interesting. So you can eat the gluten from wheat as long as it’s washed out of everything else? What are you allergic to in wheat then, to the starch?

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        10 months ago

        I’m not sure, what you mean. I did get a bakery item with my second bun.

        Well, I had to simplify a lot, because English has no word for the Laugenstange:

        It’s basically a very long lye bun. Or a pretzel shaped like a half-sized baguette.
        It’s one of the least dry bakery items there is, but it’s still very doughy and kind of does the opposite to your digestion than a salad…

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    11 months ago

    When I first moved to NZ I went to McDonalds and their idea of a veggie burger was literally a salad leaf in a bun.

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      11 months ago

      For many many years, Subway had a “veggie delight” sub that was basically vegetables with sauce. Nowadays around here the veggie patty became vegan, and they introduced meatless teriyaki. But I wish I could talk with whoever thought back in the day that a baguette with salad and sauce was a proper meal you could sell people without shame.