The top post at the online forum TheDonald on Wednesday morning was titled “Fuck Mike Pence. 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻.” And chilling calls for violence against the former vice president were rising to the top of the comments thread.

Pence plays a starring role in the new indictment of Donald Trump, which quotes Trump telling Pence, “You’re too honest” after the vice president refused to block certification of Joe Biden’s presidential win.

And Pence met the news of the indictment with harsh criticism of Trump, now a rival for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination. Pence tweeted that “anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States.”

Special prosecutor Jack Smith’s indictment also recalls how Trump, unable to convince Pence to become a co-conspirator in his despotic plot to steal the presidency, instead unleashed a mob of MAGA supporters against him. “At the Capitol,” the court document reads, “members of the crowd chanted, ‘Hang Mike Pence!’; ‘Where is Pence? Bring him out!’; and ‘Traitor Pence!’”

Such dark sentiments against Pence now have been revived, at an online forum that played a key role for plotters of the unrest of Jan. 6. TheDonald is a Reddit like forum for the Trumpiest of the Trump faithful. Both individual posts, and the comments on them, rise based on the “upvoting” of users, giving a glimpse into the collective psyche of the community.

The top comment on the Pence post called for divine retribution against the “traitor.” It reads: “May GOD Strike him down for his lies and treachery to the American People.” But as other commenters piled on, they fantasized about a public execution of Pence at a gallows. “I want to watch his toes dangle in the breeze,” wrote user BigMikesHairyDong.

“I want to stand beside you as witness,” wrote user Totally_Passable adding, “I want to pull the lever.” This user made clear he didn’t want the violence to end with Pence: “I long for the day we the people pull these traitors… out of their seats screaming, knowing full well what is coming to them, and why its coming.”

Instead of recoiling at the call to execute Pence, other users joined the call for mob violence. “No long drops,” said another user, echoing many of the replies. “Humane execution should be off the table.”

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    It’s pretty insane how these people were told, incorrectly, that Mike Pence could just wave his hand and choose the next president, and are totally ready to murder him because he didn’t do something crazy that he didn’t even have the power to do.

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      I remember when my kids were small and I would make them come inside when it would get dark and a fit would be thrown as if I controlled the sun and this was an injustice I was creating. IDK why that popped into my head.

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        Because the overly vocal fans of the thrice (I think) idicted, twice impeached, attempted overthrower of democracy don’t have the mental capacity past what most people reach when they are “small.”

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      This is kind of what happens when you have a group that is explicitly anti-education. I don’t want to come off as elitist, but when there’s a vacuum in your brain, it’s surprisingly easy for it to get filled with nonsense. Small children believe everything you tell them.

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      It’s scarier than that. I saw some of the comments, and they said he couldn’t have chosen the next president, but he could’ve held off while some states did more to investigate the votes that were supposedly stolen. They make it sound so plausible to each other, and it just makes them even scarier because more people say “Oh that sounds reasonable” when it’s completely nuts. The state of Georgia and counties in Wisconsin, Arizona, and Texas already had vote recounts by Jan. 6th. What the hell did they expect to find??

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        What the hell did they expect to find??

        I think you know what they expected to find. They expected to find their stupid conspiracy theory that the election was rigged if you just clapped your hands and believed hard enough.

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          These people could ask God himself about their theories and they’d just say “This conspiracy goes higher than I thought possible” if he did anything but blindly agree.

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        They expected to find exactly what their propagandising representatives fed them. The “Truth”™.

        And they did but, for most conservatives, reality isn’t convincing enough so they sought out a different delusion.

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          The things that get passed around on conservative twitter/fb etc are truly terrifyingly stupid, like, I couldn’t even make them up because they’re so ludicrous.

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      100% ageee. I however, living in Indiana for the past 30 years, would like him to drop dead for completely different reasons.

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      How many of these people will, in January of 2025, insist that Kamala Harris can’t just wave her hands and appoint Biden as President regardless of the votes?

      To be clear: She can’t and I don’t think she would, but according to their Mike Pence theories, she could just do that.

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        They don’t think he had a legal ability to do it, they wanted him to break the law, be a traitor to America & democracy, and appoint their Diaper Don as emperor.

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          And the funniest part of that is they expected everyone to just accept it if it happened. “Gosh, you sure got us! We are completely helpless against this coup! Long live emperor Trump!”

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            I understand why they felt that way. The civilized world has been tolerating uncountable violations of oath of office by trump and his administration for 4 years by that point. What they failed to grasp is, yes, there is a line that you cannot cross without consequences. You cross that line and suddenly all of these people who have been struggling to accept everything are mobilized to action. The trumpers think of everyone except themselves as a bunch of sissy pushovers, so I think they’d be pretty surprised when the line was finally crossed.

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          Not sure why the cost of gas matters, either, when they have no problem blowing money on Biden gas pump stickers and creating drag on their car by attaching as many Trump and US flags as possible.

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        Most of us have no idea how most of the world works. We live in a complicated society, nobody can be an expert about everything. Admit it or not we all rely on experts every day.

        The problem with experts is they can use facts and knowledge to challenge people in power. So people in power foment anti-intellectualism and push a nonsense naritive that we are all rugged individuals. You know better than the so called experts.

        This is the result.

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      Severe lack of education. The Republican Party is truly becoming the party of the uneducated.

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      isn’t this happening right now with Judge Cannon? She was a Trump appointee, has already made an outrageous decision relating to Trump, and now she’s presiding over his classified documents case, Trumpers are sending her death threats because they think she has the power to toss the case out at this point. It’s like they don’t even know when they are winning!

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    Unfortunately I’m right in the center of all of these wacko qtard fucks. I saw nothing but Trump signs as far as the eye can see from my house as little as 6 months ago. But even these people are starting to take them down. I think there’s a much louder echo chamber this time around, because these people have very little left to hold onto. I suspect in the real world, many of the supporters of his last election have finally given up. My boss was a supporter, and I’ve heard personal statements that he won’t be making the same mistake this year. The stupidity has just grown too large even for some of the fanatics. And consequences of anything resembling Jan 6th are VERY real now.

    The more I think about it each day…the more I’m in awe of just how little we’ve recovered from 2016. I don’t think things will be right until we can get the supreme court fixed, and co-conspirators are jailed.

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      I wonder if Russian propaganda isn’t also trying to kick it into overdrive. Getting Trump back into the White House would likely give them a HUGE boost if the US were to suddenly stop supplying weapons and aid to the Ukrainians, the Russians are likely desperately holding out hope for a Trump rebound and trying to push the idea that he can take back the White House.

        • There is many other countries that have an interest in the US being run by an easily manipulated and blackmailed baffoon, that is happily toring down the institutions, that keep the country running. In the same wake there is plenty of billionaires that are eager to increase robbing the people until the breaking point is reached and then fuck off to some island or so.

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        That’s exactly what Putin is doing. Hopefully this gets us time to register voters and prepare for 2024.

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        He would pressure Ukraine into surrendering to Russia and his supporters would call Ukraine greedy for “Not taking the deal”

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          “Why can’t the Ukrainians just leave the Russians alone? They’ve killed hundreds of thousands of Russians so far, why are we supporting these genocidal maniacs!?”

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            It’s not far from that, actually. I remember the Washington DC sub had people in there that claimed to be in favor of complete peace and Ukraine should have just left Russia take it over, because that would have been the most peaceful solution.

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      There is a weekly Q/MAGA/Stop The Steal/Unmask our Children/Stop Groomers demonstration on a street corner near me and it’s insane. They recently put up a BAN PORN sign. These freaks want to take away my JO material. I thought this was America.

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        I’ve learned exactly what it boils down to. Someone explained it to me when describing what laws are meant to be in America as succinctly as they possibly could.

        Laws are meant to protect a specific class of people, but not bind them. The other class of people, laws are meant to bind them but not protect them. Qtards and their ilk simply believe that the right to free speech gives them the right to offend you, but not for you to offend them. If you disagree with them, you are in the “bind but do not protect” class of people, and if you agree with them you are in the “protect but do not bind” class.

        When was the last time you heard a reasonable person say they held a political stance, just because the opposing party would be mad because of it? Almost never from me. It’s always the UNreasonable ones that do this shit.

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      I feel like so many people need mental health holds if they’ve gone this insane. It’s just not normal.

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    Log Cabin Republicans of the world take note

    This is why you will never be “One of the good ones”, you can literally be Trump’s second in command and still not be far right enough for the bloodlusting mob.

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        “Why are they going after gays and not radical gender theory?”

        Bitch being gay IS a radical gender theory… as it is in direct defiance of rhe social heteronormative understanding that love and lust are things that can only happen between a man and a woman that has been the status quo in the modern world as far back as King James making the King James bible to convince the catholic church he wasn’t gay.

        I swear these Log Cabin Republicans on some type of shit.

        Their ability to constantly be surprised that the GOP is homophobic is… amazing.

        I seriously wonder if they freak out every morning when they see a giant fireball in the sky obfuscating the presence of the moon.

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      I read the long threat of this. They were debating if a person that was quoting the bible was actually Christian… I shit you not. These folks were accusing a person quoting the bible as wrong and not what it meant. It takes 10 seconds to Google the quote for fuck sakes.

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        That’s because they don’t give a shit about God and/or Christianity. Trump is their religion. The ones that aren’t simply psyops employees paid to enable the propaganda and stoke the fascist echo chamber fires, that is.

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      BigMikesHairyDong

      Doesn’t that bring to mind a good Christian man!

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    Someone pleas explain the mental state of these people if they’re pissed that Pence -by Trump’s own admission- was being “honest” by not handing him the election.

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      Because they, like Trump, don’t use the meanings of words to communicate what they’re saying. They use the force behind the words, the feeling.

      “Would be a real shame if this guy died” might be literally expressing concern, but all the underlings know what that means.

      “You’re too honest” means “you’re TOO honest [for your own good]”.

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      Iirc it’s a custom Reddit clone hosted by Epik. “Epik has provided services for websites, platforms, and groups including Parler, 8chan, Gab, BitChute, Patriots.win, The Daily Stormer, InfoWars, One America News Network, AR15.com, Kiwi Farms, the Proud Boys, and the Oath Keepers.”

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        So they host pedos and other deplorables? How deeply surprising. Here’s my surprised face 😑

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      Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, here.

      Those assholes getting banned isn’t any different than anyone else, those sites are useful tools and they will continue to be used.

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            Yup. I was banned for telling someone “if you think cops should be able to shoot innocent people with impunity, that’s all you are, I’m not gonna look past it.” (Different username than this one)

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          You do realize anyone can just make another sub right? They don’t even have to call it something trump related, they can just make the sub and direct known members there. Only difference is that we no longer know where they are.

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    One wonders why pence flopped back to sucking trumps dick after trump cronies wanted to hang him.

    And… again…

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      Because you have to turn in your spine (among other things) at the door when you register as a Republican.

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    And Pence met the news of the indictment with harsh criticism of Trump

    "Guys, your shouting to hang me just distracts everyone from the Bidens! "

    • Mike Pence, probably
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    Completely unsurprising. When you believe you are punishing your enemies with divine retribution any amount of cruelty is acceptable, and thus we get posts like this. Thanks GOP for giving us these people.