cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/17147012

Respect

"Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority”

and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay."

-a 15yo autistic girl experiencing ABA therapy

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  • radicalautonomy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    8 months ago

    I’ve seen this exact quote attributed to various anonymous people over the years, so I doubt it was written by a fifteen-year-old autistic girl experiencing ABA therapy. That said, ABA is trash.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOPEnglish
      1·
      8 months ago

      Thanks for mentioning it. No idea if its meant literally or figuratively because ABA is known for this exact method iirc.

  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.netEnglish
    6·
    8 months ago

    Thought I’d post here as well, it blew up over there.

    “And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”

    “It’s a lot more complicated than that—”

    “No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

    “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes—”

    “But they starts with thinking about people as things…”

    ― Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum

    All too often, people who identify as an authority do so because they think of people as owned things. An ugly situation somewhat ameliorated by Celine’s Second Law “Effective communication is only possible among equals.”

    And I didn’t say it there, but here I say, while coping mechanisms should be carefully cultivated, and acting is useful and effective, ABA sounds like an excuse for abuse. You’re likely better off doing improv unless you have a truly great therapist who for some reason isn’t using better methods.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOPEnglish
      3·
      8 months ago

      Amen to that.

      Also, I‘m coming at this from a different direction but I arrive at the same conclusion.

      Somehow, people like to see other living things as lesser. Its a mechanic our current dystopian system exploits to hell.

      Imo, it’s all connected to the 1% mainly consisting of folks linked to the dark triad and their vile behavior „trickling down“.