• ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    6 months ago

    I support the general notion(obviously, and fuck knows the trans community desperately always needs intergenerational links) but will never ever feel normal about treatment of women over like, 35, Idk, which extends into queer communities too. It’s partly the “milf” thing, but this post feels weird too somehow. It uses “comrades” and then extolls the apparently middle-aged-woman-exclusive trait of bitching about your peers as a virtue. What kind of post is this? Top segment I was nodding along, second segment was a head tilt, and by the third I’m like “wow clevercrumbish, you truly are the women-in-their-late-50s whisperer, you have mastered the art of communicating with this strange creature, clearly!” The “what aspect of modern life she wants to complain about” also feels like it’s casting this age group as automatically the worst boomer stereotypes. Can we not just be normal about it instead of being weird at people?

    No I don’t garner pleasure from overanalysing comedy posts, I’m just like this :>

    • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      6 months ago

      i think overanalysing comedy posts and discussing the biases in them is good, sometimes even important. i just try and remember i’m probably thinking about it more than they did, and that i’ve probably made posts that had just as much going on that i hadn’t thought about

      • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        6 months ago

        It’s basically telling someoe you want to redacted them which does seem creepy to me. I know it’s thrown around and normalized so much that it can be easy to forget what it stands for, but now that it’s in my head it weirds me out to hear someone call someone else a milf.

        • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          I think the normalisation is weird, right? Society has two modes, one of which is “eugh women over 30 are dried up and gross xd” and the other of which is “awooooooga mommy milkers I’d let her do my milfy laundry amirite???” Super weirded out.

          awooga stalin-gun-1stalin-gun-2

          • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            It is, and I think there’s a huge internal conflict in any society that claims or aspires to puritanical values that at least partially explains it. And the porn industry also has a huge problem with contributing to the normalization of slurs, fetishization, and general creepiness.

        • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          6 months ago

          I feel like I would never refer to a real person as it unless they gave me explicit permission to. Only context I’ve used it in recent memory is referring to Eda in the Owl House

          • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            It is entirely possible that the whole internet has agreed only to use “milf” in a joking context and everybody is entirely respectful to real people, so theoretically I could be dying on a non-existent hill. But I’ve talked to people and seen stuff that makes me believe not everybody can be trusted to act normal.

            Plus, the usual “jokes are the first step to legitimizing” blah blah etc

            • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              ·
              6 months ago

              I think using any sexualized descriptor for anyone who’s real without their consent is questionable. I’m not trying to invalidate your emotions, it does seem to be a real phenomenon. But I wonder if it’s more like a channel of the internet’s misogyny than the root of it.

              • Cromalin [she/her]@hexbear.netOPM
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                6 months ago

                i definitely don’t think she’s saying the internet would have no misogyny if people stopped talking about milfs, just that it’s another aspect that gets normalized

                • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  6 months ago

                  Sorry, I should have said! “‘not a root of it.” Feels like an example of a word that’s often used to sexualize people who don’t want to be, which is common for the internet to do with any nsfw or sexually related word.