• ThatGuyFromWork@lemm.eeEnglish
    117·
    1 year ago

    Actually an instance dedicated to self hosted stuff would be great. We could have communities specifically for things like home lab, media hosting (Plex, Jellyfin, Emby), unRAID, TrueNAS, shit posting, hardware discussions, general conversations, etc.

    This would reduce the strain on lemmy.world and give us all a dedicated home for more niche topics without posts getting buried

  • nothacking@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    624·
    1 year ago

    Considering how overloaded lemmy.world is right now, a pi in someone’s basement would be better, and besides, centralization is bad. Federation is what prevents lemmy from becoming the next Twitter.

  • SomeOtherUsername@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    44·
    1 year ago

    In terms of an optimal load spread, it’s best if the lemmiverse is split into multiple equally sized instances. If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way. The only thing you get is a guarantee that your instance won’t suddenly go down.

    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
      30·
      1 year ago

      If you use an instance just for yourself, it doesn’t actually decrease the load on the main servers in any way.

      That’s not completely true. Yeah, it still loads another server a bit, but the server-to-server federation traffic is much more lightweight than the client-to-server traffic that would be involved with you having an account on that server and accessing it that way.

      But yeah, multiple, equally-sized communities on different instances is the ideal situation. The only sticky part right now is FOMO because you’d have to constantly watch for new SelfHosted communities and join them. Hopefully some frontend tools come along soon to make joining/managing multiple communities like that more streamlined.

      • Strive7307@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        Yes, ideally you‘d want to have a few large communties on each instance and not all topics with a single userbase on one. This not only decreases the load but also prevents scenarios in which a single admin starts to capsule their instance with a large userbase away from the federation.

      • andreluis034@lm.put.tfEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        What kind of “control” do you mean? Your posts/comments get replicated across all the other instances. You can’t really “guarantee” a delete, since the other instances might just ignore your request for delete.

        • ipkpjersi@lemmy.oneEnglish
          14·
          1 year ago

          By control, I mean I can back up my data and ensure my comments, subscribed communities, messages, etc are all available to me no matter what, I don’t have to rely on some external third-party managing it for me.

        • ipkpjersi@lemmy.oneEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          My instance will be for me only, I will be the only person on it and it will be closed for registrations. I won’t be responsible for anyone else’s data on my instance, nothing for me to be concerned about.

          • Romulus Roy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            I’m not really sure about that. I’m not saying it as an expert or anything, but that’s a discussion I saw around here the other day.

            Basically, once you federate and copy the content to your instance, it is in your server and you are responsible for it.

            I’ll agree with a few things, tho:

            It barely happens today, on centralized platforms. They’re hardly obliged to remove content because some judge says so (it does happen, tho, at least in my country)

            I’d imagine it would be a bit of a grey area legally, right now. We would need legislation regarding the fediverse. Imagine someone posts child porn in an instance yours is federated to. Your instance copies the content. You notice and defederated the whole instance, but don’t remove the content. The dude is banned by his home instance and his post is removed. But his copy still exists in yours, since you defederated before his ban and content removal.

            Just saying that selfhosting brings a lot of things that need to come to your attention.

            • ipkpjersi@lemmy.oneEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Does Lemmy automatically grab all content from all federated servers, or does it only grab the content from communities you (and any other users on the instance) are subscribed to/are actively being visited?

              I’m not so sure it does copy all content in the background.

              • obosob@feddit.ukEnglish
                4·
                1 year ago

                Yeah, it’s only communities that people on your instance search for/subscribe to afaik. So if you’re the only one on your instance then you have control over that.

                Further to that it’s only the post objects (and comments, etc.) that is replicated all pics and videos are just URLs. even when you upload a picture with the post, that’s just uploaded to the instance and the link to it is the link of the post, even on other instances the images are fetched from the original source from the client side. I do believe each instance does local thumbnaling.

    • Wats0ns@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      231·
      1 year ago

      Yes, but we’re currently evolving into a situation where everything is centralized around Lemmy.world

    • J_C___@lemmy.placeEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Also the assurance that your home instance won’t be suddenly federated from one of the major ones

      • s4if@lemmy.my.idEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        As long as you don’t let your instance become bot/nazi/tanky swarm, you are green…

  • abraham_linksys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    351·
    1 year ago

    I laughed but I dunno about you guys but I don’t publicly self host anything. If you can’t auth via ssh or VPN then you’re not accessing a damn thing from my home network. I’ve got multiple routers that I could set up some isolation with but it’s just too close to home.

    • XTornado@lemmy.mlEnglish
      91·
      1 year ago

      Me having everything open: Come here mother***s I am waiting for all of you.

      VPNs? Cloudfare? Cloudfare Tunnels? Tailscale? What’s all that? Here we are fighters not pus***s.

      (Just kidding about the previos comments haha, well I have it open but it’s not on my home network… so slightly less problematic and tbh I am planning on closing some stuff, plus all is behind logins, and tbh I kind of like to be able to access to it from anywhere/any computer without having to use any special connection)

      • kitrune@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Well, now I’m worried about my security. I have an ngrok tunnel running inside a container on a raspberry pi. Do I need to worry about my other devices or if someone tries to attack me only the container is affected?

  • LessQuit@feddit.nuEnglish
    81·
    1 year ago

    I want to self-host but don’t know how to code etc so not sure where to even start

    • mim@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      24·
      1 year ago

      Never self-hosted Lemmy, but have self-hosted other things in the past. While you don’t necessarily need to code, you need a fair amount of code-adjacent skills. If you ever want to get into self-hosting, you should have a look into (at least):

      • the linux command line
      • ssh
      • how ports work
      • VPS providers
      • DNS registrars
      • nginx
      • docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)
      • tool@r.rosettast0ned.comEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        docker (while you don’t need it to host things, it makes your life 10x easier)

        …until you have a single extra space character hiding 20 lines into your compose file and the whole thing falls over the next time you try to bring the containers up.

        Lint your code and configs every time!

        • mim@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          VScode with “format on save” enabled. Literally never had an issue.

          It’s the editor that finally made me move away from vim

        • Opeth@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          Xml wasn’t great but yaml is 2 steps backwards

          Edit: tfw 3months ago

  • ALERT@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    115·
    1 year ago

    Oh my god, I laughed so loudly that I had to explain this comic to my wife. She thought I’m dying already.

      • PriorProject@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Now it’s full of people who aren’t hosting it and it’s not self-hosted for them anymore.

        The idea of a self-hosted community is meaningless. It has to attract people other than the hoster to be useful.