It’s so bizarre to me that a politician saying that the grotesquely corrupt psychopath in charge of an apartheid nation that’s carrying out a genocide on one front and an incremental land grab on another while they also try to provoke yet another nation into attacking so they can play the victim as they continue their egregious crimes “should resign” is a newsworthy event.
The world is in the hands of insane monsters.
Israel isn’t apartheid. Anyone saying they are has no clue what apartheid is or means.
HRW is a pretty terrible source, just saying. Also, I’ve been to South Africa, and I’ve been to the National Apartheid Museum. Israel may not be perfect, but it isn’t even close to being apartheid.
HRW is a pretty terrible source, just saying.
Why?
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/human-rights-watch/
Seems pretty credible…
And this isn’t an opinion thing, that Human Rights Watch link goes into great detail on various ways that Israel is an apartheid.
Like, we’re not talking about if a band makes good music or not, apartheid has a recognized definition by international bodies…
Well, it’s newsworthy because, while Pelosi is hella old, she hasn’t technically retired yet. And politicians actually saying or doing things that are morally defensible usually comes after retirement (unless you’re part of the progressive wing that the DNC is basically trying to shut down altogether).
She should go back to her headquarters in China.
Mind you, she still isn’t actually called for a ceasefire.
Anyway, these fucks are going to scapegoat Netanyahu, orange revolution him out of office all for the oppression of Palestinians to continue, at best, at an only slightly slower pace. But more likely just be replaced by another of the multitude of genocidal maniacs sitting at the Knesset. Fuck these performative asshats.
For those of us who don’t speak tankie, is the orange revolution reference an indication that the commenter also believes fascist Ukrainians secretly caused the ouster of a Kremlin-friendly President in Ukraine?
Do you have other historically inaccurate ad-hominem riddled irrelevant points to make or do you actually have something to contribute to the discussion?
It’s very clear to anyone with a half brain that the Democrat’s are scapegoating Netanyahu while completely skirting any responsibility to try and save face in front of the biggest issue they face for reelection.
Sorry, I couldn’t parse an answer from your reply. What does it mean to “orange revolution” someone out of office?
I suppose this is a reference to Ukraine’s Orange Revolution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Revolution. Seems to be outing someone out of office because of blatant corruption and voter fraud.
Yes, but the comment seemed to use orange revolution as something negative. Like it’s a backhanded trick. It wasn’t until I started reading Lemmy content that I even ran into people seriously saying the OR was a fraud pushed by the far-right in Ukraine.
I can wait for the commenter to clarify.
Well I don’t speak tankie either, and I think the revolution ousted a very pro russian government. Which would be a bad thing for a tankie.
That’s why the reference was used negatively. Orange revolutions are something western democracies do to promote hegemony. Or some such tankie bs.
I used to think she was an idiot for that, another user on Lemmy challenged me and I looked into the comment further.
The protestors she told to go back to China were members of Code Pink.
Code Pink used to be a legitimate feminist anti-war protest group, but after the co-founder married Neville Roy Singham in 2017, a Maoist who has supported pro-China groups across the world with funding ties to the CCP and now accounts for 25% of the groups funding, the group has suddenly removed all historical complaints against China and stopped saying anything critical of China.
tl;dr: This group is openly an verifiably funded by China, and repeats Chinese talking points.
In closing, fuck Nancy Pelosi and her governments support for funding Israel, but she was right on this single issue.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Pink
https://chinamediaproject.org/2023/08/16/code-pink-code-red/
Booohooo some rich person turns out not be aligned with western hegemony. Also the group isn’t funded by China isn’t funded by Roy Singham, who happens to align himself with Chinese interests. I bet you had no issues with Soros and the NED funding protests in Hong Kong though, that’s totally cool and based right?
I said that.
Roy Singham is funded by China, and he uses that funding to fund pro-China propaganda groups across the world.
The rules of this community prevent me from saying what else I want to say about tankies, so I’ll leave this conversation here as I’ve been deleted too many times before.
I don’t think Singham, who made nearly a billion dollars selling his company, needs any money from China.
The guy is pretty based though, thanks for proving that point.
No “nearly a” billionaire is based.
I think a nearly billionaire who stopped making money and is now blowing all of his money financing incredibly based people, is in fact about as based as a near billionaire can be. Cause one day, and at this rate probably not that long into the future, he will not be any anymore.
Really? I thought people accusing Israel of genocide were russian trolls and chinese spies?
According to Lemmy they are!
It makes sense when random people or celebrities make these demands…
But Pelosi is a senior member of our government, she doesn’t have to just make these public statements.
Cutting off aid until Bibi is about of power isn’t just possible, compared to other ways we’ve kicked genocidal maniacs out of power it’s down right cordial.
We need the people who do have the power to get shit down, actually put the work in and do it.
