• neatchee@lemmy.world
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        Let’s not bury the lede here: the joke in question was making a birthday wish while blowing out candles saying “don’t miss next time”. Joke or not, that is publicly encouraging the assassination of a former president.

        Like, there’s a big difference between “I heard he shit his pants when the bullets started flying” and “I hope it happens again and succeeds this time”.

        Fuck Trump. Fuck everything about him. But you gotta know that shit isn’t acceptable when standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo

        EDIT: Whole lot of people in here can’t fucking read lmao. I don’t give a shit about Trump, conservatives, or anyone on that side of this issue. I just know that it’s a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living. Y’all need to get a grip

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          I can wish the bystander didn’t die, but that would mean the shooter would’ve had to not miss, which also would’ve resulted in the death of a pedophilic, racist, rapist cancer on this country, so… Win win?

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          I sincerely hope it happens again and succeeds this time. Trump is a threat to democracy and I hope somebody does something about it.

          *Disclaimer: I am not instructing anyone to do anything, I am stating how I would feel if that thing were to happen.

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          Spare us the sanctimonious lecturing. I don’t give a single shit about the pearl clutching coming from conservatives after they spent the last two years thinking it was utterly hilarious that a lunatic with a hammer savagely attacked Paul Pelosi… Including Donald “look at my YUGE bandage” Trump. They can dish it out but they can’t take it, fuck this apologia nonsense. A comedian made a tasteless joke about Trump at a concert in Australia. Boo hoo.

          As far as I’m concerned the only one whose reputation has taken a hit here is JB. Immediately throwing Kyle Gass under the bus, cancelling their tour, and announcing “all creative plans are on hold” over that seems like a massive overreaction. I still think he’s an incredibly talented dude and he seems like an otherwise good person but it has made me think quite a bit less of him.

          Edit: And now this jackass is doubling down and insisting anyone that disagrees with their stupid point simply didn’t understand it. Blocked.

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            And in your worldview, it’ll just be a race to the bottom.

            JB did the right thing. Him and Kyle will be able to come back from this because of the actions of JB. After all, who is the heat on now? It’s not Kyle. He looks like a victim now. Jacks taking the heat. Heat he can easily handle. Heat that will fade away in the coming months and be forgotten.

            Instead of throwing a massive fight back and blowing the situation up even more out of proportion. Instead of now having to wonder if you’ve made yourself a target of insane Trumpers.

            This was masterful PR and it shows who knows actual PR and who has too much ego to take an L when needed. This pretty much guaranteed that JB AND Kyle are protected. Everyone took just enough dirt to look like they got punished but it’s not enough to actually end anyone.

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              Glad there’s at least one other person here who gets that this wasn’t a political decision but a PR one

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                Literally everybody here gets this. It’s in the fucking title of the post… And it is also exactly why everybody is hating on JB now and downvoting your comments. JB should have stood by his lifelong friend and creative partner, and care fuck all about the corporatist PR image after one bad joke. Especially because Kyle’s joke wasn’t a career endingly bad one. But JB made it out to be one. He has effectively killed KG’s career now, by blowing the thing way out of proportion, completely unnecessarily. All because he thought that HIS career was in danger too. That is why everybody is angry at him now. He has acted 100% selfishly.

                What he should have done, if anything, was to say sthing like, “Kyle made a mistake, it was a joke in bad taste. But I’ve known him forever, I know he’s a good man with a good heart. He will reflect on this and learn from it and do better in the future. An assassination attempt, and the death of an innocent bystander can never be a joke. We will dedicate the oncoming stages of the tour and all proceeds from it to the family of the victim. Blah blah blah”. That’s all JB had to do and say.

                Instead he threw KG totally under the bus, ended his career, and by making the morally wrong choice, probably damaged his own as well.

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                  I’m not going to retype my explanation of why this is a childish view of the situation. You can read my other comments in a different fork of this thread if you want to learn why this is self-righteous, self-satisfying crap. That’s what YOU want. It’s not what’s actually best for JB or Kyle.

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      KG made a joke about Trump getting assassinated and Black totally stopped the tour and disowned him.

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        There may be more to this that we arent aware of like they agreed to not do controversial material ages ago and Kyle pitched the joke and Jack said “Dude fucking no, we dont want to touch this.”

        It might be more about creative differences than the actual joke is what I’m saying.

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          Never thought I’d see someone think they had to white knight Jack Black, but here we are

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            NGL I’m kind of hoping that Jack isnt a closet MAGA asshole. Ill take a benign capitalist motive over that.

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              Oh, I don’t think he’s MAGA, I think he’s just entirely too worried about his acting career and threw Kyle under the bus without a second thought. Kyle just said what occurred to him in the moment and rather than backing Kyle, Jack just turned weasel.

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    Jb should have just kept his mouth shut, maybe made some half assed apology, but that’s about it. Making a big deal about how unacceptable Kage’s comment was is just pandering to the far right. It’s mostly just the far right that is pearl clutching over this.

    Comedy is the last bastion of free speech. If you do not like the joke then stop listening, move on, change the channel. Censoring comedy because someone doesn’t like the joke is the only thing that is unacceptable here. Really disappointed in Jabels here.

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      Especially since at the concert everyone laughed, there was no pearl clutching till the twitter post

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      The fuck are you talking about? As far as I understand it, he didn’t throw Gass in a cage to keep him from every stating a joke again… he just chose not to participate in something he didn’t agree with. That kind of choice thing you claim to be for.

      Are you some sort of free speech absolutist who only wants people to agree with you?

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        Imo, JB capitulated to the far right by so staunchly objecting to KG’s comment/joke… it wasn’t necessary for him to make such a big deal about it, legitimizing the outrage which, imo, wasn’t justified.

        Have whatever opinion you want, idgaf.

        Also, a ‘free speech absolutist’ and ‘only wanting people to agree with you’ are unrelated concepts… to quote you, the fuck are you talking about?

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        Why can’t people see that this is about self-preservation, not PR.

        Like for fuck sake, do you need to see gay people lined up against a wall by conservative death squads before realizing how fucked up the situation here is?

        I’d be shocked if both of them (and their families) have not been receiving death threats since Gass made the joke.