• elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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    1 month ago

    If I remember correctly, Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one, if not the main cause of their extintion.

    Also constructions like Gobekli tepe, with it’s carvings and decorations, predate the extintion of Mammoths by something like 6000 years.

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      29 days ago

      I… am so disappointed this didn’t go where, for a split second, my brain thought it was going.

      Homo sapiens sapiens was not only coetaneous with Mammoths, but we are widely considered to be one

      Chickens are dinosaurs - and humans are mammoths!!

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        29 days ago

        birds are the continuation of the theropod dinosaur lineage.

        humans are the continuation of the early synapsid lineage also present at the time (which later gave rise to the early mammal progenitor).

        when people say birds are dinosaurs they mean the lineage didn’t branch as much as it did for humans, which I think is more survivorship bias than anything.

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          29 days ago

          People say birds are dinosaurs because every living thing is in every clade of it’s ancestors which means they are dinosaurs. They’re also a lot of other things from all of the other clades so they’re not saying that birds are just dinosaurs, but that they are part of Dinosauria and every other clade of their ancestors and so too will all of their descendants be.

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            28 days ago

            Yes, one could say birds have skeletons in the same manner. I guess I’m just trying to understand what the opposing position before was the great revelation birds are dinosaurs was uttered. I’m perpetually confused by this expression.

  • SanndyTheManndy@lemmy.world
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    30 days ago

    Just using some tiny mammoth population on an isolated island in Siberia to state “MAMMOTHS WERE STILL ROAMING THE EARTH WHEN BLAH BLAH BLAH” is somewhat disingenuous.

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        29 days ago

        Roaming the earth means roaming all - or at least a very significant portion of - the earth, not some very isolated region. So I would say yes - if some tiny population of mammoths was still alive in some limited area at this time, they were not ‘roaming the earth’.

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      29 days ago

      Also pretending that 4000 years ago humans were still hunter gatherers or something (it’s kind of implied in the wording imo). 4000 years ago there were plenty of fairly developed civilisations around.

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    1 month ago

    Weren’t there like full blown civilizations at that point? Kinda weird to refer to mammoths as if it were some stone age prehistoric period and be surprised that someone could craft something like this then lol

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    29 days ago

    The eyes don’t make sense to me. How did they know to use this pattern? Are there some really big grasshoppers out there?

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      29 days ago

      No doubt there are insects big enough to be able to see the patterns on the eyes without magnification.

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        29 days ago
        1. Exactly this. Just eyesight & time.
        2. Not to mention that some insects even have a bit of contrast between the lenses so it’s easier to understand they are compounded.
        3. And additionally due to individual lenses compounded eyes arent smooth - by reflecting light at different angles you can make the “bumps” obvious.
        4. Also if there is like a water droplet on grasshoppers eyes you can clearly see it’s surface structure. Just like you can see individual pixels on your (high dpi phone?) screen the same way.

        Tho I bet they didn’t study this ones eyes:

        It’s called a fairy wasp (wiki/Megaphragma_mymaripenne) and it’s only the third smallest insect known.

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      29 days ago

      I’m sure they had plenty of experience with bugs in their environment, both alive and dead. I’m sure you can see the eyes pretty well close up.