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The White Stripes singer Jack White called Donald Trump’s campaign “fascists” and threatened to sue after an aide apparently used a clip of the band’s hit Seven Nation Army on a pro-Trump social media post.
Trump’s deputy director of communications, Margo Martin, shared a brief 10-second video clip of Trump boarding a plane to campaign events with the music as a background soundtrack.
The move clearly angered White, who rapidly became the latest in a long line of musicians to take umbrage at their art being used as a soundtrack to Trump’s bid to retake the White House.
On Instagram White wrote: “Don’t even think about using my music you fascists. Law suit coming from my lawyers about this (to add to your 5 thousand others.) Have a great day at work today Margo Martin.’
I know that you can’t just assume things, but I’ve always found it telling that 95% of the people who make all the beautiful, and even just amusing, art in the world all seem to be left of center in their particular countries.
If the most sensitive among us, attuned to the human condition, almost universally trend one way, and so do the teachers and the scientists, maybe, I dunno, they’re onto something.
The best art requires empathy
I forget where I read this (Jonathan Haidt maybe?) but someone said that conservatism is focused on in-groups whereas liberalism is broader, which requires more empathy. Empathy is also very useful when creating art, which is why there are so few conservative artists and the few who do exist tend to do very literal/realistic works.
Left = good for people
Right = good for the really rich
At the end of the day, the left is good people and right is full of fear and hate.
The right has very little aesthetic. Their primary symbol looks like it took 14 seconds to make on a hat at RiteAid.
I think its mostly that the other side is just so much More radical. I still refuse to believe half the americans would vote for Trump again after all that has happened
Never discount the religious right in the USA. They do what they are told. Zero critical thinking. None whatsoever. Cognitive dissonance be damned.
Don’t worry, your realization has a very simple explanation: tHeIr aLl BrAiNwAsHeD!
I saw part of the DNC where they went to representatives of each state and territory to have them announce their votes. For each and every one the DJ played a popular song associated with that region. I’m guessing they had to try to clear all of those. It was a kind of annoying and tedious procedure, but I feel like it was a big flex on conservatives. It seems like artists are rebuking the usage of their music by conservatives for political events on a regular basis.
so its ok to use copyrighted material if you just use it until someone yells at you, then switch to the next piece youre not allowed to utilize?
at what point are you punished for clearly breaking the copyright law on purpose? or is that only for poor people?
if the punishment for breaking the law is a fine that law only exists for the poor
It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.
Icky Trump
To bad we can’t send trump on a wagon to Mexico
Na [na na na] [na na na] [na na na] naa na.
No no no, Mexico is sending us their rapists, we’re not sending them our rapists.
Good for Jack.
I don’t know why or how this keeps coming up. All musicians who want or don’t want their music used by a politician or political party should be on a list. If the song is on the banned list and it’s used, instant fine.
That’s not really how copyright law works though.
It’s a civil issue which means the aggrieved party needs to file a suit.
It’s obviously just easier and cheaper for trumps team to do it this way. There’s no back and forth asking for permission (that would be declined anyway). They just do it, then pay a few grand to settle later
But we’re not talking copyright laws, we’re talking Fair Use and I think musicians should be allowed to say, it’s fair use or X and not for Y
Fair use is a (difficult) defense to being sued for infringing copyright. The copyright holder doesn’t get to say what is and isn’t fair use-- that’s a multifactor largely qualitative assessment preformed in the court room.
Trump’s campaign guy: “but I thought he was White!”
Stop giving them warnings… Just do the thing
Per the article:
On Instagram White wrote: “Don’t even think about using my music you fascists. Law suit coming from my lawyers about this (to add to your 5 thousand others.) Have a great day at work today Margo Martin.’
It looks like “threatens a lawsuit” is being used here because “sues” would be inaccurate (since the suit has not been filed).
Oh wow that’s a beautiful qoute.
I’m opposed to most copyright laws.
Good. What a horrible taste in music anyway.
Jack White is one of the most influential musicians of his era (his heyday would have been 2003 or so when Elephant by the White Stripes was released).
Is it now “hip” hating the White Stripes?
Not just the white stripes, Jack is one of the most prolific artists of this generation. The Raconteurs, Dead Weather, and his solo efforts are all amazing too.
The Raconteurs, Dead Weather,
I literally can’t tell if you’re making these up as a joke I don’t get, or if he’s done more than that one song. You know the one. With the bassline.
You’ve never heard even another White Stripes song besides Seven Nation Army? How old are you?
40
How does someone get seven down votes for starting their age?
you’re not sure… if a career musician has done more than one song. okay bro.