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He may not be in office, but Donald Trump has been speaking with the powers that be about Israel’s war on Gaza—but it’s not in an effort to end the genocide.
Instead, Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.
“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”
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Everyone who says “They’re both equally bad. I refuse to vote for either candidate because they both support genocide” can shut the fuck up now.
One is supporting genocide, but the other is actually doing it.
Id prefer not to support the side that says “finish the job”
I’d prefer neither, and in any case I’d still refuse to promise my vote to a party before the election. If Harris wants my guaranteed support she’ll have to start acting like it.
Now is the best time to push the party left, and genocide is the one issue I absolutely refuse to compromise on.
Any vote not for Harris is a vote for Trump because of how our system works. You would be actively pushing closer to the final annihilation of Gaza by not doing everything in your p-
Oh fuck it. You fucking morons will never understand at this rate. I just hate seeing you pretend you actually give a single fuck about those poor people when you’re just using them to virtue signal
I’m not saying not to vote, I’m saying not to make yourself ignorable. If the DNC knows they have your vote they won’t have any reason to try and earn it.
In a perfect world maybe, but not how it actually works. Please vote for your best interests. A not vote is that same a vote against your own interests.
I’m not saying not to vote, I’m saying not to make yourself ignorable. If the DNC knows they have your vote they won’t have any reason to try and earn it.
You said you can’t garauntee you’ll vote for Kamala and that she needs to earn your vote. Also that you shouldn’t be ignored.
What are you saying? Are you saying there’s a possibility you’ll vote for trump? Because that’s the only other option… unless you don’t vote.
I guess I’m just confused about how are going to get these people to see you. How are you going to not be ignored? The whole no confidence vote already happened, and the next vote is the only one left
What are you saying? Are you saying there’s a possibility you’ll vote for trump?
If Trump was able to convince me that he’d stop America’s support for genocide then I would.
And until Harris can do the same, the Democrats do not have my fealty.
that’s the only other option… unless you don’t vote.
That is precisely the risk that the Democrat party is taking. If there is no option for voting against genocide, then people like me might not feel enthusiastic about getting out of the house on voting day.
I guess I’m just confused about how are going to get these people to see you.
The same as any organization, public opinion polling:
The party is well aware that the fraction of their base that wants to stay the course on America’s national support for genocide is a minority.
That they have not already changed their stance is evidence that they do not see a need to do so. They must be confident that they can win the election without the support of uncommitted voters.
Bet.
The “genocide Joe” crowd is deafeningly silent on this development, i see. How surprising.
Is it ok for Democrats to continue financing a genocide because Trump said he’d do it, too?
Biden isn’t even in the race anymore. Why are you still trying to defend him?
Right? Pretty sus that we’re suddenly not allowed to be anti-genocide… because Trump is pro-genocide?
Yeah let me join the downvote crowd. The most powerful military and the largest economy in the world is unable to stop its vassal state from carrying out a genocide for 10 months. But if I vote for this cop and her soldier friend instead of a real estate guy, we’ll magically change our ways and the bombs will stop falling. I have a bridge to sell you.
K let me try and put this as simply as I can, so that you fucking acorns can understand:
Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.
Donald Trump is actively discouraging Netanyahu from agreeing to a cease-fire. That is a fact. No bridges there.
You people are condemning Joe Biden, the guy now actively working towards a cease-fire.
You people are not condemning Donald Trump, the guy actively interfering with a cease-fire.
To reiterate, Donald Trump is actively, publicly, and aggressively supporting genocide, and Joe Biden is trying to get a cease-fire enacted, yet you Genocide Joe sycophants can’t see past your own biases to realize that.
Joe Biden is working towards a cease-fire. That is a fact.
He just sent them $20B in new arms exports.
FFS, Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. You’ll believe absolutely anything, except the truth.
And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire. You don’t give two shits about Palestinians or genocide.
And Trump is interfering with a ceasefire.
Netanyahu has not demonstrated any interest in a ceasefire. Blaming this on Trump deflects the strong Israeli support for further genocide of the Gaza people.
Did you people not read the link at all?
“Trump made a call to Netanyahu to tell him to do the things he was going to do anyway. This is possibly illegal (but he won’t be prosecuted for it so it isn’t illegal in an tangible sense).”
Trump is actively trying to stop a ceasefire. A ceasefire that you ostensibly would support. So, why no criticism…?
Netanyahu has expressed no support for a ceasefire, going so far as to greenlight the assassination of the lead Palestinian diplomat.
I think he was questioning why biden gets it but trump has no need of defense in this much more specific action.
why biden gets it but trump has no need of defense
Does anyone on this site think Trump isn’t routinely criticized for his foreign policy?
Biden’s the current president. He approved $20B in military spending for Israel just last week
That’s why he’s at the front of the line for this outcry.
Netanyahu revealing which part of the US he’s really an “ally” of. Maybe stop giving blank checks to a foreign power destabilizing your country
while you only hand out loans and debt to Ukraine?He’s been campaigning for Republicans since Romney ran in 2012.
It’s ridiculous to blame Trump for the lack of a ceasefire between Palestine and Israel. Why not just blame Trump for the war in Ukraine as well or the stolen election in Venezuela.
Why not just blame Trump for the war in Ukraine
I’ve heard more than one Lemmy-ite make this claim. Of course, I’ve also heard any criticism of the Israel genocide is the product of Russian botnets and Iranian sleeper agents.
The scapegoating is off the charts. Anything I don’t want to think about is due to a nefarious foreigners and their kompromat fifth columnists at home.
