• Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    45
    ·
    28 days ago

    Reminder that the original PS1 controller was almost literally a SNES controller with handlebars and extra shoulder buttons. The only reason why the PlayStation is a thing is because Nintendo fucked over Sony after Sony tried to fuck over Nintendo.

    • latenightnoir@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      28 days ago

      Seems to reinforce the rule that most good things which come out of Capitalism are either by accident or out of spite.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      28 days ago

      Thank Christ they didn’t end up with the same button layout… I’m sorry, but Y is at the top and A is at the bottom. I don’t even care that I grew up with the NES and Gameboy. That backwards shit is just wrong.

      • 𝕾𝖕𝖎𝖈𝖞 𝕿𝖚𝖓𝖆@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        edit-2
        28 days ago

        iirc, PlayStations in Japan flip the functions of X and Circle around. Circle is generally an “accept” button while X is generally a “back/cancel” button. Now I heard this many years ago so it may not be true anymore.

        I think it makes sense when you consider where A and B are on the SNES controller. And it also makes sense for them to have moved back to the right face button (in the US) when you consider the Xbox 360 released a year prior to the PS3 and was kind of a runaway success.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          28 days ago

          That’s fair. While NES and Gameboy were my first gaming experiences growing up, PS1 (and later PS2) were the real workhorses of my childhood, so even to this day, my mind views all face buttons as the PlayStation “glyphs” or whatever they are called. When my brother and I discuss controls in games, we both default to “press square” instead of ‘X’ (or ‘Y’ if you’re Nintendo).

          Makes me glad that Nintendo decided to (mostly) go with the icons (the four dots with one colored in) in their games to indicate button presses. Much easier to keep track of everything when they just show you the position of the button rather than just “X” and you have to find out if that means the bottom button, the left button, or the top button.

      • Sylvartas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        28 days ago

        It’s only wrong because the Xbox controller is more ubiquitous than Nintendo’s controllers and thus became the new standard. As someone who also grew up on Nintendo consoles, I remember it took me a while to adapt to it, but since I shifted towards PC gaming it became my new standard too

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          28 days ago

          It’s wrong because A comes before B and X comes before Y and English speakers/readers read from left to right.

          I have never owned an X-Box in my life.

          • Sylvartas@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            28 days ago

            At the end of the day they’re just glyphs though. Maybe letters in a clockwise alphabetical order is the most intuitive for someone who has never used a controller before, but I’ve never seen anyone complain about the PS buttons layout after the initial “where the fuck is triangle” phase… except for that Japanese standard where X is “cancel” and O is “confirm”… because they deviate from what we are used to (and actually mimick the Nintendo layout regarding A and B placement, interestingly enough)

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              25 days ago

              People don’t complain about the order of the glyphs, because outside of videos games, there is no pre-existing, ubiquitous, order those glyphs will always appear in every single time you see them (which is constantly because they make up your written language).

              A comes before B. A 3 year old can tell you that.

              Square, x, circle, and triangle have no preset order.

    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      28 days ago

      Its more that sony thought that they were in an a equal partnership, meanwhile Nintendo thought that they could treat sony however they wanted

      • Mossy Feathers (They/Them)@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        27 days ago

        Lol no, Sony was trying to use as many of their own parents as they could so they could fuck Nintendo over on royalties. They’d set up the Nintendo PlayStation’s hardware so that Nintendo was having to pay royalties multiple times for a single device. Sony is literally scum. Nintendo is barely better, but at least they don’t have a history of trying to pass off literal malware as drm.

        Edit: Sony is one of those companies, where if there’s something you hate in life, they probably had a hand in making it somehow.