Tesla co-founder previously suggested Taiwan should become a ‘special administrative zone’ in China

Elon Musk, the owner of X/Twitter, was called out on his platform by Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs after calling the island nation an “integral part of China” and insisting that he understands “China well.”

Mr Musk made the comments on the “All In” podcast while answering a question about China and the future of his involvement with the nation.

During the interview, Mr Musk said “I think I understand China well,” and notes that he’s been there several times and has met with high-ranking officials.

He then turns his attention to Taiwan, and compares its relationship to China to Hawaii’s relationship to the US, insisting it is "an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China”.

That comparison is flawed in two major ways: first, Hawaii is not a contested region, but is unquestionably a US state with all the same powers and freedoms granted any other US state; second, Taiwan’s assertion that it is its own state is not arbitrary, but instead a position it has held for decades.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    suggested Taiwan should become a ‘special administrative zone’ in China

    Yes, because that worked so perfectly for Hong Kong. 🤥

    I bet China would embrace such a deal happily even with eager, wait a few years, and then force full integration.

    Musk is such an idiot, that I lack words to describe it. He has been convinced (bribed) by China to spew shit in all directions regarding Ukraine and Taiwan, he is 100% an undeclared foreign agent of the worst kind.

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      then force full integration.

      Don’t be silly, China is a democratic country… they would hold a vote, like they did with HongKong: 99% for, 1 against. Totally democratic. 🤫

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        It’s really sad, because China was making good progress before Xi Jinping became president.

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        Arguably, Hong Kong is more democratic today than when it was administered as a colony under the British Crown.

        Under British rule, the Queen appointed a governor of Hong Kong, who himself appointed virtually the entire legislative branch. They did not have elections.

        Today 20 out of 90 legislative seats are elected, and from my limited understanding is essentially governed under a system evolved from British rule.

        You’d think Americans of all people would also hate British Rule.

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          The UK wanted to introduce full democracy in Hong Kong prior to the handover to China in 1997. China’s response was to threaten to send in the tanks.

          Hong Kong has zero democracy today, the majority of the Legco seats are unelected, and those that are elected, Beijing nominated all the candidates.

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          I think both are bad. I don’t care if it’s “slightly better” they shouldn’t be occupied. Full stop.

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        Yeah, I think people underestimating Musk is extremely dangerous.

        Everyone underestimated Trump too and gave him 24/7 coverage because of how “stupid” he was.

        Assume a powerful enemy is intelligent, or you’ll not understand how they got their power and will be perplexed as to how they grow it and how they will abuse it.

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          When relentless coverage of terrible people, and their insane words/actions, results in said people winning fair elections, I think the intelligence of the electorate might be the biggest problem.

          But yes, that’s beside the point, as is their growing mental illnesses and instability. The wealth/power they’ve been allowed to accumulate will always make them a danger/threat that should be taken seriously.

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        Same reason the IRS spends all their time auditing poor people who made mistakes instead of auditing one billionaire for year. The metrics they’re graded on aren’t based on quality, they’re based on quantity. Going after a billionaire is expensive, and sure, it would have lasting positive impact, but they’re graded on number of cases closed

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            Exactly my point. We could spend 1 year auditing / investigating 1-2 billionaires and have way more government funding and way less foreign interference, but we don’t because the system is working as intended

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    What the fuck is this moron going to say next? “Hitler wasn’t all wrong”?

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      He’s gotta take the dunderheaded asshole position on everything apparently. He’d probably be YouTubing from his car right now except he has people fly him everywhere.

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      As great of a plan as that sounds, companies like TSMC wouldn’t dare to risk tanking their profits just to spite a single company run by an absolute dingleberry.

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        TSMC will do nicely with other companies (re: Apple, which gets most of its chips anyway). Threatening a leading manufacturer is silly when there’s plenty of other companies desperate for premiere hardware.

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      He knows who’s buying 70% of his cars. And that’s not Taiwan.

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    Didn’t he recently say he does everything he can to prevent wars and the like?

    Cause this is quite the exact opposite of trying to prevent wars.

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    By that logic it’s also completely arbitrary that mainland China isn’t part of Republic of China.