• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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    9 months ago

    This crazy religious fundamentalism has to go. I’m not a fan of pork, but maybe it’s worth making bismillah pork eating videos on tiktok to show solidarity with this poor woman and mock the fundamentalists.

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    9 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    An Indonesian court has sentenced a woman to two years in jail for posting a viral TikTok video where she said an Islamic phrase before eating pork.

    In March, she posted a video where she uttered “Bismillah” - an Arabic phrase that means “in the name of God” - before eating crispy pork skin.

    The video got millions of views and was widely criticised, prompting another Indonesian to report her to the police for “knowingly eating pork skin as a Muslim”.

    Police charged Ms Lutfiawati in May for disseminating hateful information, saying it was an act of hostility over ethnicity, religion, and race.

    Rights groups and activists in Indonesia have long criticised the blasphemy laws, which they say are frequently misused to target religious minorities.

    Indonesian police last year arrested six people after a bar promoted free alcohol - prohibited in Islam - for customers named Mohammed.


    The original article contains 378 words, the summary contains 147 words. Saved 61%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • Anonbal185@aussie.zone
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    9 months ago

    Her mistake was to do it in a Muslim country. I have a Muslim friend you wouldn’t even know if they didn’t tell you.

    Outdrinks everyone, sometimes eats pork but rarely. But that’s because they only get pub food, according to him food just takes up space that can otherwise be occupied by beer/vodka/gin/burbon. Noone else I know Muslim or not goes to this extreme, it can’t possibly be good for their liver.

    He’s at least smart enough not to do this in a Muslim country.

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      9 months ago

      There’s a joke told around me that explains this. Why do you always invite two Baptists fishing? Because if you invite one Baptist, they’ll drink all your beer.

  • Extras@lemmy.today
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    9 months ago

    Sorry to ask and I mean no harm but how serious is eating pork? I’m not religious at all

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      9 months ago

      Its very prohibited. And very here refer to having many statements about it in both Quran, the holy book, and Hadith, the prophet Muhammad sayings.

      However, to my knowledge this case shouldn’t go to the court in the first place because all the islamic warning are personal. It is like breakout a fast, its personal and there are no law or instructions for a punishment for it.

      This shows how bad are the “islamic” groups in Indonesia are. Because in many cases they are doing things that completely unfounded by Islam. I cannot even call them fundamentalist.

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        Most fundamentalist groups are fundamentalists for the fact that they only know the fundamentals for understanding religious texts.

        Actually useful concepts and conclusions to be made evade them. And that is not only for religion.

        Really. It is borderline a synonym with “dumb motherfucker”.

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          Fundamentalism in Christianity means you interpret Scripture with two rules that are a lot like Occam’s Razor. The first is that text is interpreted literally unless it has obvious indications that it is not literal. The second is that the Tanakh (which Christians call the Old Testament) is followed unless the New Testament specifically comments on it.

          Fundamentalist Christians don’t believe in evolution because there’s nothing in Genesis that hints at allegory, and it’s not mentioned in the new testament. Eating pork and shellfish is allowed because that is specifically addressed as being Ok. Something like the Talmud in Judaism or Papal Bull / Canon in Catholicism, where Scripture can be interpreted in a more complex light, is not used at all. That’s a hallmark of fundamentalism in Christianity.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not religious either but, from the Muslims I’ve met, this seems to vary according to how religious they happen to be on an individual level. Same thing with make up, in theory it’s haram but a lot of women wear it along with their hijab.

      What this headline tells me is that things are getting a bit extremist in Indonesia. Please correct me if I’m wrong, I’ve never been to Indonesia.

    • Annoyed_🦀 🏅@monyet.cc
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      9 months ago

      It’s the worst sin you could ever commit if you’re a muslim, the same level as murder. They treat it as eating shit, but idk, as a non-religious chinese that’s the best shit we ever got.

      • stephen01king@lemmy.zip
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        9 months ago

        Where the heck do you even get this idea from? I’ve never ever heard it be treated the same level as murder. Do you have any source to back this up?