You seriously haven’t heard us complaining? Most people get something but a few weeks is unheard of. I think most people I know who even get pto have a little over a week/year between personal and sick days
Yeah, I heard that. Never hard that most don’t get any time off. You’ll notice I asked rather than calling bullshit, since I didn’t think it was impossible but thankfully it was just hyperbole based on what you say.
You really don’t get any. You have to be well established in your career to be allowed to use it. You can’t really say “I’m taking a day off next week” and expect your job to not look for a reason to punish/fire you.
Many of us are well aware but at this point so numb to the awful and insanity we just shrug and make a shitty joke
It’s not like we can do anything about it
And before you bring up unions, those only work when your coworkers haven’t been brainwashed that unions are evil and your company isn’t master level at squashing unions without ever getting caught…a union of one is just unemployed… And unemployment just makes all of it so much worse
Well, keep in mind that even if a job gives us PTO, any sick days we use come directly out of our PTO. So if you only get 10 days of PTO a year and you come down with the flu then bam, that is most of your PTO gone. It gets worse, even if we have the days and want to take a vacation, they don’t have to let us use it and often it is very difficult to use our PTO.
I wonder if the people downvoting you are misunderstanding your comment as saying “nobody should be allowed to call in sick for any reason, ever”.
The concept of sick days is ridiculous. Being sick isn’t predictable, so employers obviously shouldn’t be allowed to artificially limit the days you’re allowed to be. It’s a broken system that allows for such things in the first place. If you’re sick, you’re sick, and your employer has to accept that. If they don’t want to take that risk they should employ a robot.
It took forever to get a corporate job but both corporate roles I’ve had provide decent PTO. Current job has 3 weeks PTO+ accrued sick time. The pay isnt good but at least I get time off.
Other people I know in more corporate roles have similar pto but without the accrued sick time.
The only time I didn’t get PTO was when I was working minimum wage jobs.
From a European perspective, 3 weeks isn’t good. 24 days is the legal minimum where I live. 30 is standard.
I got lucky and found a job with 42, and sick days aren’t counted against those.
It’s honestly hard to take them sometimes. Not due to pushback from the employer, but because you have to find 42 days without fixed appointments.
But if you don’t take your PTO, you are forced to by your team leader, otherwise the company can get in trouble.
You seriously haven’t heard us complaining? Most people get something but a few weeks is unheard of. I think most people I know who even get pto have a little over a week/year between personal and sick days
Yeah, I heard that. Never hard that most don’t get any time off. You’ll notice I asked rather than calling bullshit, since I didn’t think it was impossible but thankfully it was just hyperbole based on what you say.
You really don’t get any. You have to be well established in your career to be allowed to use it. You can’t really say “I’m taking a day off next week” and expect your job to not look for a reason to punish/fire you.
I hope you realize that’s utterly insane.
Many of us are well aware but at this point so numb to the awful and insanity we just shrug and make a shitty joke
It’s not like we can do anything about it
And before you bring up unions, those only work when your coworkers haven’t been brainwashed that unions are evil and your company isn’t master level at squashing unions without ever getting caught…a union of one is just unemployed… And unemployment just makes all of it so much worse
Well, keep in mind that even if a job gives us PTO, any sick days we use come directly out of our PTO. So if you only get 10 days of PTO a year and you come down with the flu then bam, that is most of your PTO gone. It gets worse, even if we have the days and want to take a vacation, they don’t have to let us use it and often it is very difficult to use our PTO.
You really need active unions
The concept of sick days is fucking ridiculous
I wonder if the people downvoting you are misunderstanding your comment as saying “nobody should be allowed to call in sick for any reason, ever”.
The concept of sick days is ridiculous. Being sick isn’t predictable, so employers obviously shouldn’t be allowed to artificially limit the days you’re allowed to be. It’s a broken system that allows for such things in the first place. If you’re sick, you’re sick, and your employer has to accept that. If they don’t want to take that risk they should employ a robot.
They’re also saying that from an instance housed in the EU if its TLD is accurate
It took forever to get a corporate job but both corporate roles I’ve had provide decent PTO. Current job has 3 weeks PTO+ accrued sick time. The pay isnt good but at least I get time off.
Other people I know in more corporate roles have similar pto but without the accrued sick time. The only time I didn’t get PTO was when I was working minimum wage jobs.
From a European perspective, 3 weeks isn’t good. 24 days is the legal minimum where I live. 30 is standard.
I got lucky and found a job with 42, and sick days aren’t counted against those.
It’s honestly hard to take them sometimes. Not due to pushback from the employer, but because you have to find 42 days without fixed appointments.
But if you don’t take your PTO, you are forced to by your team leader, otherwise the company can get in trouble.
Ahh, workers rights… Sounds dreamy