• theangryseal@lemmy.world
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    Or he’s making it up.

    I made my mother cry because she voted for Trump and I expressed my disapproval. She called my sister, who also voted for Harris, and my sister made her cry a second time.

    We’re all having dinner tomorrow and we won’t bring up politics.

    It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

    I think my mom made a stupid decision. Oh well. She thinks I made a stupid decision.

    If your politics define you so much that you abandon your people or you’re not disciplined enough to keep your mouth shut at family events where you’ll convince no one, that’s on you.

    They bring it up and end up having a bad day, that’s on them. We simply agree to avoid politics and religion. It’s not that hard.

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      Unfortunately, my continued existence is labeled as “politics” so no, someone who voted against my rights to exist is not my family anymore.

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        The genders: male and political. The colours: white and political. The sexualities: straight and political.

        Yet somehow the most common politician is straight white male.

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      It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

      I think my mom made a stupid decision. Oh well. She thinks I made a stupid decision.

      If your politics define you so much that you abandon your people or you’re not disciplined enough to keep your mouth shut at family events where you’ll convince no one, that’s on you.

      Yes. It is fucking stupid.

      But you know what’s worse? Supporting a political party over your daughters, who are facing the very real possibility they will have to die simply because of a miscarriage, or no longer having the right to vote. That they will be forced to carry the baby of their rapist. that their daughters may no be entitled to an education- even the shitty ones now provided- the same way they were.

      Facing those threats… because you voted for that political party.

      They’re not staying away, or “turning their back” on family because of politics. They’re doing so because his politics objectively suck and absolutely will bring harm to them and millions like them. (that is. women. Not to mention racial minorities, immigrants, anyone whose different from the white, cisgendered, conservative male arch type.)

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        It’s so interesting to see the complete disconnection on here with everyone else’s life.

        his politics objectively suck and absolutely will bring harm to them and millions like them. (that is. women. Not to mention racial minorities, immigrants, anyone whose different from the white, cisgendered, conservative male arch type.)

        will, will bring harm. Not talking about past harm, not even mentioning current harm. Just FUTURE harm. All of the middle class people on here are just fucking hilarious with their world views. If you’re wondering why most of the population sits out of voting, well you’re never going to see it. Cue the average ivory tower response,

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          Sure I’m going to go over a waterfall as soon as I go around that bend in the river up there, but why should I get my canoe out of the water now? I mean, everyone knows if a problem is in the future it doesn’t really exist!

          FYI, dude, it’s not in the future. Women are dying from miscarriages now. Racially-motivated assaults are on the rise now. Nazis are marching through the streets now. Orange Hitler and his Project 2025 cabinet wants to just bring this bullshit nationwide, and they will do so.

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            I’m assuming everyone was confusing my statement as some type of pro-trump comment or dismissal of the election results?

            I was literally talking about everything you just stated. Everyone is worried about what the Trump presidency is bringing when we are already there in terms of disparaging and effecting the population with our government’s actions. Everyone’s holding their breaths and speculating on what the next presidency will bring while completely ignoring all the crisis’s that are on-going currently.

            I’m also flabbergasted that everyone is afraid of what the trump presidency will bring while those same problems have happened for generations and like they don’t currently exist. I suppose people just want to be outraged and I’m not helping with pointing out he’s just making a horrible system become that much worse. These problems existed before Trump for most of the populace.

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      You know what we call Germans who disagreed with Hitler on some issues and yet still supported him?

      Nazis.

      Nobody cares, or will ever remember anything other than that.

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        I guarantee the same thing was happening back then, people cutting off their family members because they supported a fascist dictatorship

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      It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics.

      Right? Which is why the person in the original post shouldn’t have voted for the guy that wants to take away the rights of his daughters. By voting for Trump, he chose politics over family, not his daughters.

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      It’s fucking stupid to turn your back on your family over politics

      It’s really not. Politics determine your opinions and intentions regarding human rights and its violations. If my dad votes for Robodolf Mechahitler, he’s not my dad anymore. Someone voting for Trump would likely betray their own daughter when Gilead rises. If they wouldn’t, their vote is a contradiction to their character. I wouldn’t take something like this lightly.

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      It’s absolutely not stupid to turn your back on family because of politics.

      It’s not a sports team, it’s conscious decisions that affect the law and how we are governed.

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      Yes it is that hard. If you consider the real effects that politics has on people’s lives, the direct negative consequences of laws and policies that make their lives worse, and then you ask us to ignore those and stop talking about them, maybe we’ll be able to do it if we are not the direct victims. But as soon as you are the direct victim, of course you’re going to speak out on it.

      Here’s a very simple example. One of my relatives uses a wheelchair or a walker, and they have a vehicle with handicap tags that they use to get around. The problem is, one problem is, that many polling places don’t have the legally required handicap parking available. So my relative has extreme difficulty voting. That’s a political problem, a political issue, that disenfranchises my relative. Should they be able to discuss it with the family? I sure hope so. But is it politically charged? Of course it is.

      What you’re asking, what you’re expecting, is that every single victim has to shut the f****** about the bad s*** they’re dealing with, just because it’s connected to the government.

      And look, I picked one of the mildest examples you could possibly think of. After all, my relative might be able to vote absentee, depending on the rules in their state. But there are so many more examples that are absolutely tragic, that involve lives being totally ruined. And you think those should be off limits.

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      You aren’t the voice of reason you think you are.

      I guarantee the same exact shit was happening in the 1930s. People being disgusted that their family members would side with fascism and turn on mentally ill, Jewish, and gays.

      Would you say the same thing about Germans turning on their family? Both leaders fought for turning their country into a fascist dictatorship best strips liberties from certain people only

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      Drag wishes there were fewer people in the world willing to set aside politics for family. People like that are destroying the world.

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        All these fools huddling up in their tribes, hoping it will just go away.

        I don’t talk to anyone on this planet outside of my house, I need to just delete social media and hope I die before humanity cannibalizes itself.