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    “How can they have freedom be one of their foundational guides, but think restrictions on what women do with their bodies is alright?”

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          Not to mention that childbirth can be deadly for either party involved on a good day. It’s naive to think that every fetus is going to come into the world alive. I have personally known people who aborted a fetus that they desperately wanted because it was essentially non-viable, and not worth the risk to the mother. They later had several other healthy children, who would not have existed had that aborted birth been traumatic enough.

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        Humans deserve rights. One of those rights is NOT to use other people’s bodies though.

        If I’m dying of kidney failure I don’t get to force you to donate your kidneys to me. Quite the opposite, thanks to bodily autonomy. That thing you hate when it applies to other people.

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            How. I woman being forced to carry a child to term appears to me to be the same as you being forced to donate a kidney. They both involve involuntary use of a body for someone else’s benefit.

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            It’s actually an incredibly relevant and appropriate equivalence, since restricting access to abortion care means endangering women’s lives in cases where the pregnancy is non-viable or there are other serious complications to the pregnancy.

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        They are fucking clumps of cells and fetuses, not babies. The to-be-mother is a fucking adult human (and only a child in some cases) with fully grown nerves cells and developed emotions.

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        Why don’t we put them in artificial wombs at the expense of the state and create a child army? Then when they age out of the military they can have full citizenship! /s

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        We’re not talking about babies. During the first trimester, when most elective abortions occur, that “baby” is the size of a grape, and barely has the beginning of organs. It can’t think or feel, let alone experience consciousness.

        Your attempts at trying to paint abortion as killing an actual infant is disgusting.