• Neato@kbin.social
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      11 months ago

      You’re all over this thread defending Israel and now you’re equating Jewish people with the Israeli government. Bad faith arguing.

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        11 months ago

        Equating all Jews with the monsters committing genocide is… What’s that word again? Oh, antisemitic, right. People simp for Israel so hard they become actual antisemites.

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      11 months ago

      Hi, I’m a Jew. I also absolutely hate Netanyahu and the entire disgusting coalition of Likud, Tkuma, Otzma Yehudit and all their Kahanist allies.

      It’s not anti-semitic to hate the government of the state of Israel, as much as they might like to pretend that the terms are synonymous.

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        11 months ago

        Obviously criticism of the current Israeli government is 100% valid because they suck. And criticizing it is definitely not anti-semitic.

        However, is calling for the destruction of Israel anti-semitic? Is calling for the destruction of all Muslim states Islamophobic?

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          Yes and yes, imho. The only humane way forward is an end to the killing on both sides and a diplomatic solution. Whether that’s a one, two or five state solution doesn’t matter to me, that’s up to the people negotiating.

          That diplomacy and negotiation feels a very long way away at the moment though.

    • ???@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 months ago

      Criticism of Israel ≠ Jew hatred.

      Unless you mean to say that, for example, every Jew in JVP is committing Jew Hatred on a daily basis.

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          11 months ago

          Nope, just the people who use KHAMAS to differentiate themselves from the rest, it’s a signal.

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              I’m sorry, you didn’t notice how a number of people with British accents or who are from America just go out and say KHAMAS. Like, are you kidding me? Do you say “KHELICOPTER”? Hamas’ name in English follows the Arabic tradition of ح (ḥā) sound being turned into the “h” letter in English and pronounced like a normal h, and yes, it’s normal to say “Khamas” if your mother tongue is modern Hebrew, but I think you aew still oblivious to the fact that Israeli propaganda wants to “other” Palestinians (by calling them “Arabs”, for example). In this case, it’s by deliberately mispronouncing the English name of “Hamas” (any person interested enough in a thing usually learns to pronounce it correctly, lots of people in the UN said “Hamas” regardless of their mother tongue when they spoke proper English) but Israeli officials want to degrade Hamas, make Hamas sound bad through and through, and often when you hear KHAMAS, you also hear “KHAMAS ISIS” even though no self respecting expert would make such a comparison. But that all starts to look terrible when you realize that Hamas in Israel means all of the Gazan government. The IDF has bombed governmental buildings, stopped all social work, and obstructed police that were trying to rescue people from under the rubble because those police are “KHAMAS”. Any social worker or nurse at a public hospital is KHAMAS. etc.

              So when I say KHAMAS, please don’t think of me mocking a Jewish Israeli speaking on the news about the atrocity their witnessed on October 7th. Instead, think of [this man who’s quite a piece of work] (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LPnI6jD-k8I)

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      11 months ago

      History is tolerated. And I’m talking about Israel no Jews. Maybe another few years back to school could help?

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      11 months ago

      Israel is an ethno-state, people fighting on behalf of Israel want to eradicate Palestinian people. This doesn’t have anything to do with Jewish people in general. To conflate Israel with Jewish people is itself antisemitic.