I feel horrible. Like I have been scammed or something. What can I do if anything? I still owe $130,000 on the car and can’t even sell it because I would then owe around $60,000 to pay off the loan compared to what I can sell it for.

I love the car, I really do but having a hard time getting over this horrible feeling of being taken advantage of.

and the punchline:

Hol up, you bought a $155k car a year ago, and you still owe $130k on it? How small was your down payment? You are what’s called “upside down” on your own loan: you owe more than the value of the thing you took out the loan on.

If you’re asking what financially you can do, the answer is nothing; you took out a very large loan with a very small down payment on a depreciating asset. Take this as a lesson about why you don’t do that, particularly when said asset can be crashed. All cars depreciate in value. Electric luxury sports cars from a relatively small company depreciate very, very quickly. Never trick yourself into thinking that your agreement to buy that car was ever anything but an agreement to light $155k on fire. In the future, if that’s not something you can afford to do, do not buy the car.

If you’re asking what you can do to make yourself feel better about your choice, my suggestion would be to try to focus on why you made the decision in the first place. You didn’t buy a $155k luxury car with a zillion horsepower because it was a sound financial decision; you bought it because it was fun. Nothing has changed about the car between now and a year ago; it’s still just as comfy, and it still rips your dick off when you hit the skinny pedal. The value of the car to you was never momentary, and that value hasn’t changed. What can you do? The same thing you were going to do before; out make your payments, and you keep enjoying your car. Don’t think about the financial value of the car; think about the value it has to you.

If you are in a situation where you can’t afford the loan payments anymore, you’re in a much tougher spot. I would talk to a financial planner, cuz you’re gonna need to do some clever maneuvering to dig yourself out of that hole. I’m guessing your best bet would be to sell the car for whatever you can get for it, pay off as much of the loan as you can with that lump sum, and try to refinance the remaining $60k or so at a better interest rate. You’d basically be making payments on a $60k loan rather than a $155k loan, which should at least be an easier hit to take each month. If you need a car, buy a reliable used one in cash, and pay off that $60k loan as fast as you can. Swallow your pride and buy an older Prius or something for $10k.

And for the love of god, don’t crash the Tesla; the max you’re going to get out of your insurance is the cost to replace the vehicle (unless you have gap insurance, which I really, really hope you do). If you total the car tomorrow, the max you’re going to get is $86k, and you’ll still owe $60k.

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    Tesla model 3

    it’s actually crazy how you can find model 3s in the mid 20ks now. these things depreciate like crazy

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      10 months ago

      I’m assuming those have issues? I think I’d probably get a BYD over a Tesla, although I’m not buying a new car anytime soon.

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        I’m assuming those have issues?

        I just checked a bunch of listings on AutoTrader for Tesla Model 3 under US$30,000 and none of them mention any significant issues.

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            I know that Teslas still have suspension issues that start appearing around 100k miles so keep that in mind

            The Tesla battery issues are limited to the pre-2015 Model S so that’s not really an issue. For battery longevity, you should expect to replace the battery at around 200k miles, going by real-world examples of high mileage Model S.

            And obviously, Teslas all have misaligned body panels, but I don’t know if I’d really care about that on a mid $20k Model 3

            The mid $20k Model 3s I looked at have around 50k miles