https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/
Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.
I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don’t want to move.
/r/Piracy
That’s not the real games piracy sub anyways. The true successor of the scene-watching community is and always was /r/CrackWatch and even there people are very aware that they’re not contributors, just spectators. So basically, it was a place for movies piracy, and movies piracy is and always been the most piss easy, top result on google piracy around. I haven’t gone on a single website to pirate movies in a decade, shit is all searchable either directly on qBit and deluge or on tracker tools.
They don’t want to come over, so what? They’re irrelevant. A wiki service reddit, barely anything else. A place for people who unironically install uTorrent and don’t even know what the u stands for.
That’s why it kind of surprises me that https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy is packed but https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/crackwatch is basically a ghost town.
Yeah I don’t need to know about every single thing that comes out immediately, or the latest drama that empress decided to vomit into an .nfo file. I’m here for discussion about sources and methods, I know what I’m looking for and who I trust to repack it.
To me, finding out about new releases is the most interesting part since I already know basically as much as I’d need to about how this sort of stuff works.
Ωμ
People probably don’t know what the u in uTorrent stands for, because there is no u in μTorrent. Quite ironic that you are coming at them like this and fuck it up yourself haha
Because mu is so easy to type on a standard keyboard.
I didn’t fuck it up unintentionally.
Sure my boy
It’s so hard to join lemmy now, and everything lags in lemmy even just an upvote…
Sorry to hear that, but I’m guessing that might be related to your specific instance. So far I’m really happy with mine, but some are evidently struggling to keep up with the influx of Rexxiters. (and bots, maybe?)
Anyway, nothing preventing you from hitting the Fediverse from a different instance, yeah?
Come join the rest of us sh.itheads on sh.itjust.works!
same thing is happening to me. I might try making an account on another instance
True. This should get better over time though! There’s not a lot of optimistic UI in Remmy and that causes the app to feel a lot slower. There’s a lot of PRs up rn to improve the frontend so maybe something will make it in soon!
I haven’t been able to upvote a post in a few days.
Every one just sits there for 60s then:
SyntaxError: Unexpected token '<', "<html> <h"... is not valid JSONThis is definitely instance related. I have not experienced any issues what so ever since joining.
I’ve not had any issues? Try another instance, Lemmy.world is very popular and works well.
I’m having lag on lemmy.world. Sometimes just spins for 5+ minutes just to upvote. Sometimes posts won’t create at all, just spins and spins.
Hm, perhaps clear cache? They recently upgraded and that can fix some issues.
To be fair, anyone who actually cares is not on reddit anymore, so you’re seeing the worst of the worst takes.
A lot of people on r/piracy are pirates by convenience, not by ethics. The sub being shut down is not convenient for them. It’s really sad to see how many people have the attention span of a goldfish, and can’t think beyond “this isn’t convenient for me today.”
Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?
Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?
For me, at least, there are companies worth pirating stuff from. I don’t pretend to be ethical in any way, although I do avoid pirating from indie devs. It’s been a long while since I pirated anything, tbh. I just like the community here and it’s nice to keep up with the news.
Exactly. I don’t pirate too much, I’m happy just playing my favorite video games (paid for because they are good) and talking in chat rooms, but if I wanted to play a Nintendo Game with friends I would 100% pirate it; it’s ethical in this case and I have really no other way to do it.
Especially their back catalog. Nintendo is sitting on tons of lost money for reasons I don’t really understand
If they sold the old games still piracy rates would probably go down and they would get more money, so it would be pretty much a win-win for Nintendo. Or am I missing something?
No, you’re right, and that’s absolutely what I’m saying. Presently, the only avenue if you want to relive the old Pokémon games is to steal them. That, if you ask me, is big dumb
Ah, okay. Guess I’ll just keep pirating Nintendo games then, half because I hate Nintendo and half because it’s the only way to get them now.
Well I certainly don’t give a fuck about ethics so I just pirate cuz I want. And on that note I also use reddit sometimes because why not. I’m not here ideologically, just cuz it’s a nice place to be in. I like it here. I use lemmy more than Reddit nowadays. Reddit is a source of information and sometimes memes. Lemmy for the good place to be in.
I imagine most people are like me and have an old account and communities they like.
It’s similar to why people don’t e.g. flee states like Florida.
It’s kinda dumb, but I get the feeling. They should just realize they can use both sites
That’s understandable. I actually find it refreshing to walk away from the baggage of nearly a decade old account, but I have the luxury of the communities I care about (all two and a half of them) having already migrated (or split, take your pick).
Yeah. I have a few subs I’ll probably keep visiting from my pc, but the rest mostly exists here already.
Just let 'em. Splitting a community isn’t nice but i don’t see another solution here. Maybe this is kind of a diet for us and slimming will be a chance for us.
I mean exactly. I’m 99% sure these folks weren’t contributing anything of substance in the first place
Yeah I imagine anyone with real knowledge that was contributing has jumped ship at this point.
This applies to most other bigger subreddits too. You could go into subs with millions of subscribers, but in the comments it was always still the same handful of people actually contributing useful things.
Come on guys don’t let that discourage you from commenting about it; that’s exactly what admins and spez want (hell some of those are probably spez’s alts lmao).
Minecraft even pulled out of reddit today; other companies might follow. Users just need to keep up the pressure in reddit discussions.
You can copy/paste this premade summary I made pretty much anywhere.
The Minecraft subreddit isn’t closing, Mojang staff just won’t be posting there anymore.
i kind of wish they would direct people towards the fediverse version, but i don’t know how easy that is for them to do without upsetting someone at microsoft behind the scenes
Yeah. Still a pretty big blow to reddit’s pr
…if they have any left
Other companies might follow suit.
I’m here for it all. Looking down on reddit and laughing.
I have only just joined over here on Lemmy, so let me try to explain what took me so long. Reddit, even though a shit hole, is easier to use and has ingrained itself with google for even easier use. Lemmy is a nightmare to try and find boards ya interested in for common people, as each .com is it’s own sign up and own set of boards, it’s not you go to one site, sign up and find what ya want, you need to know each little lemmy.insertnamehere to find a certain ammount of boards.
This is just my experience and everyone could be different, basically put, laziness and simplicity i think are the two main reasons.
EDIT: not to mention that just took about 5mins to post… wtf is up with this site?
I do not think that is the case. You simply need to toggle the search for communities to “all” instead of “local”. That should search every federated instance, which becomes very similar to searching for communities on Reddit
I feel like they don’t understand the point of the john oliver posts. Someone said it only turns the community to shit. Yeah, that is LITERALLY the reason so that people migrate away and turn reddit into a mess after spez’s decision. Oh, how quickly people forgot about the protest, spez was right.
My favourite are the comments of people saying “return the sub back to normal, this shit is stupid and isn’t doing anything! I don’t even use Apollo so I don’t care” - posted from Boost for Reddit.
A lot of people don’t even understand. They genuinely think this only affects Apollo and that Christian is being a baby lol. Can’t wait to see their faces when their app stops working and they whine.
they’ll have to manage using the Reddit app to whine, so there will be a delay!
Or they’ll feel stupid and try to pretend the official app is great.
A year ago I tried using the official app because people would chat with me, and I would miss them. Lasted about 3 days before I couldn’t handle it anymore. It’s so bad.
Now spez has deleted all my accounts and IP banned me, so I don’t even need to worry lmao.
I’ve seen someone unironically whine about how the mods were harming more users than Reddit mods. And of course, r/AskReddit’s pseudo-neutrality is infuriating.
to be fair what’s happening is the folks who didn’t jump ship are now the loudest voices. Good luck with that brain drain reddit
They’re just there for the easy upvotes for posting their memes about the mods ruining that sub, then getting mad when the posts get removed.
The history button for Moderator Toolbox there is showing a ton of regular r/teenagers posters who barely use the sub. My guess is they saw comments getting upvoted for being righteously indignant about the John Oliver posts and decided to “meme” their displeasure in the way teenagers usually do.
I think most of the people who want to move already moved, these are the leftovers
Honestly a lot of people who casually use reddit, probably don’t know and aren’t deep enough into the reddit world to care much
Yes, a combination of the Principle of Least Effort and the Pareto Principle probably. 80% of people don’t know, and of the 20% that do, 80% find it too much trouble to do anything about it.
I also think there’s an element of time spent with Reddit. For some of us who’ve been with the site for over a decade, this is the last straw with Reddit. For many others, its their first incident.
What else has happened?
What else has happened? 👀
In no particular order:
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The CEO Spez decided to edit comments that were directed at insulting him to insult that subreddit’s moderators instead (it was a Trump subreddit, but even so), with no indication that the comments had been edited.
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Reddit’s redesign, barely anyone who used the old design likes the new one. At least they kept the old one.
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Removal of exact Upvote/Downvote numbers like we have here only giving an overall “score”. Later followed by obfuscation of the true value, supposedly due to bot vote manipulation.
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The “jailbait” subreddit, which featured images of girls who looked close to being or actually underage, and some likely WERE underage, was allowed to exist for an extended peiod of time. Reddit also gave the guy that ran it “a gold-plated bobblehead doll “for making significant contributions to the site.”” reportedly.
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Installed an interim CEO, Ellen Pao, who was there solely to take the blame for some controversial changes like banning some fairly popular if not great subreddits. It was later revealed that wasn’t even her decision.
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Ellen Pao was also put under fire for supposedly firing Victoria Taylor, who is a very connected individual and was responsible for many of the site’s celebrity/notable people AMAs (Ask Me Anything), including guiding them through the interface and what not so they could capably deliver said AMAs. She was actually fired by Alexis Ohanian, who is one of the founders of Reddit, has worked there on and off, and is currently Executive Chairman from what I can see.
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That time Reddit as a community decided to hold a witchhunt over the Boston Marathon bombings and misidentified the culprit. Not really the admins fault technically, but it could perhaps have been prevented by them.
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The rampant issues with bots, most of Reddit’s top posts of the day and their initial comments are entirely reposted content by bots. Very little seems to be done to remove them.
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Also the rampant issues with power users and power moderators. Why exactly can one individual be put in charge of hundreds of semi-popular/popular subreddits?
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In addition to the site redesign, the implementation of things like a chat function on top of the DM function, NFTs, Reddit Premium, different rewards and tiers other than Gold (Reddit Silver used to be a joke for those who didn’t want to do Gold), online statuses, avatars, coins, and probably some other stuff I’m forgetting, were all generally unwanted. Most didn’t cause that much of a controversy, but I don’t know anybody who wouldn’t be happier if they were gone.
Probably something else I’m forgetting, but that’s what I remember most.
Omg thank you for the extensive comment… so much has happened
I can’t believe it
Gives me a different perspective… and now I feel pensive hm…
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I concur
It’s like BitTorrent. There’s seeders and then there’s leechers who just want their free stuff and stop sharing immediately afterwards.
Some have more principle than others.
I think you mean there are Lemmy users (qbittorrent) and Reddit users (utorrent).
Can’t convince them what they’re using is bad and that there are better alternatives.
Still can’t believe people use uTorrent even though it became malware so long ago. Like come on guys, really? There are a ton of way better clients like qBit and Transmission, and they are just stuck in their own ways to their detriment.
I think the craziest part is those who know, so they stay on a “safe” version released in 2010…
Nothing like using a 13 year old piece of software despite there being way better up to date alternatives.
Okay, that’s just crazy. I have been beginning to suspect people are a lot dumber than I originally thought, and this helps confirm that.
I have friends who still default to utorrent. Every time I see their desktops with utorrent in the taskbar, I let out an audible WTF and show them the light (qBittorrent).
I’m not sure I’m able to seed, unfortunately. College network doesn’t seem to like port forwarding, and Mullvad disabled port forwarding recently. That and I don’t have a lot of storage space and I’m worried about getting a scary letter from my ISP. At least the scene I’m in is more DDL-based than torrent-based. Makes things easier.
my theory is that most users don’t know or care about the api changes or the deaths of the third party apps. and most of the ones who do know dont care.
id also guess that a lot of people are hesitant to join the fediverse due to a choice paralysis, kinda similar to Linux distros. altho joining an instance is not actually all that complicated most people just dont want to have to bother making the choice of which one to join, and others cant be bothered to learn how instances work. ppl think it’s complicated because it’s different and new to them and ppl generally don’t like change 🤷♀️
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“Why fix what isn’t broken?” Most people don’t have the foresight, they live in the present and it’s like nothing has changed. When the realization hits, they might migrate to lemmy if reddit was important to them.
Personally, a video should help. A lot of people are visual learners. And the size of the community at reddit is small… that’s also a factor. If their friend are coming here, they’ll come here.
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Ease of use and size of user base
What do you expect? All sensible people are probably already left the sub at this point, as evidenced by all those comments in the post you linked.
Mass scale brain drain that’s only going to get worse
