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This is not correct for Romania: officially it’s Surname + Given-name, live in Hungary.
Not true for Greece, it’s just First-name + Surname. It just happens that some Surnames are derived from the father’s name (think “Anderson”).
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Hopefully this isn’t too pedantic, but it shouldn’t say “first name” on any of these. It should say “given name” or “personal name”.
The entire point of the map is that it isn’t the first name for some cultures.
What happens on blue countries when mother and father don’t have the same surname? For example when they are not married or the mother didn’t bother to change her surname
The map is incorrect for Ukraine. It’s either first name + surname, or surname + first name + father’s name for the documents.
In Spain of course your parents have 2 surnames too. So your first surname is your father’s first surname, his 2nd surname is dropped ( first surname of his mother ) Your second surname is the first surname of your mother, her 2nd gets dropped too.
In the end always the name line of the females get dropped.
That’s so shitty. In the Netherlands they’ve just started to allow 2 surnames. One of the best proposals I’ve heard is that you would take your father’s father’s name, and your mother’s mother’s name. That way men continue the male name line, and women continue the female name line.
But then siblings don’t share the same last name, which might maybe cause administrative issues down the line?
They do! Siblings both carry their father’s father’s name and their mother’s mother’s name.
Kids of siblings will not have the same family name if the siblings have different gender, but that shouldn’t be an issue
Interesting! But then how do you deal with the next generation?
- Boy Adam-Bernard marries Girl Copper-Dale
- What are their children’s last names?
See my comment above:
One of the best proposals I’ve heard is that you would take your father’s father’s name, and your mother’s mother’s name.
Oh sorry, it makes sense indeed!
How long do Spanish and Portuguese names get?
Very very long. I was entering a friend from Madeira into my phone a few weeks ago, and theirs was technically 7 names long.
Add to that the “so, which is your surname?” and getting 4 possible answers, all of which are in fact surnames.
There is also my friend who is half Spanish, half Portuguese. All his names shuffle around all the time depending on who he’s speaking to.
When someone asks for my surname, sometimes I give my mother’s surname, sometimes my father’s surname and sometimes both, depending on my mood
![[Map] Usual name order in European countries](https://jlai.lu/pictrs/image/cf8a9877-65aa-4196-b539-50e1f2180601.png){kind=link}