• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    This is a bleak perspective and I refuse to believe that it isn’t a good time. When will it ever. That view will never produce change.

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      9 months ago

      Pushing for legislation that is a non-starter when we are barely able to pass a budget to keep the government running isn’t a great strategy. Political capital needs to be spent where it is most effective, even if that means putting good legislation that isn’t viable on the back burner from time to time.

      I hope we get universal healthcare sooner rather than later, but our problems are a little more existential right now. They might elect the guy who wants to end democracy. Sometimes we must compromise and do what is viable rather than what is desired. The good should not be sacrificed in pursuit of the perfect.

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        9 months ago

        People not getting healthcare right now, is just as existential. Why are we not deserving of passing that? The time to fight for things like that is now. I’m not saying we shouldn’t vote against Trump, we are all saying it is best to have a healthy conversation about who would be a better candidate overall.

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                9 months ago

                Oh it makes a lot of sense. Constrain the possible set of candidates, ones that poll better than Biden, using corporate media, and you get a certain samsie set of candidates. These candidates generally have some different domestic policies and incredibly similar foreign policy perspectives: see children in cages, committing coups, aggressiveely policing the world through the military, circumventing UN goals (our military is exempt from climate talks) etc etc etc.

                Biden is not our candidate, he is the corporate candidate of choice for the Democratic Party.

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                  9 months ago

                  Yeah except you’re wrong.

                  children in cages

                  Republicans. Biden set up a task force to reunite the families.

                  committing coups

                  I don’t think this is Dem or Republican…we haven’t done coups since the Arab Spring. Although it would be nice if we managed to push Iran into one, that is definitely on the table.

                  aggressiveely policing the world through the military

                  Republicans. Republicans start wars, Democrats end them.

                  circumventing UN goals

                  Republicans.

                  Like seriously, it’s that fucking meme over and over again.

                  Republicans do bad things

                  Idiots: “why would the Democrats do this??”

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                    9 months ago
                    1. Those detention centers are still open detaining illegal immigrants. Reuniting is a nice press event for continuing the status quo without media oversight.
                    2. Obama did a coup in Honduras. Biden is building one up in Venezuela. We drop more ordinance all the damn time without being at war. Doesnt matter the president. We are arming a genocide in Palestine. We have no right to interfere with Iran and that sort of language is exactly the US exceptionalism problem. You can quibble and I know you will but jesus we have a bipartisan military problem.
                    3. Both parties - see US history writ large
                    4. seriously the UN agreements on climate change exclude US military, if you think that is partisan you have been conned.

                    They are working in collaboration with corporate interests. Reducing it to one party is ignorant to the actual problem, but you’ve stated its’s a meme so I guess you’re right. We should just shut up and accept that we shouldn’t demand a presidential primary for the DNC.

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                    9 months ago

                    Republicans start wars, Democrats end them.

                    LOL didn’t trump withdraw from the middle east and now Biden is bombing the shit out of them again and sending weapons to Israel?