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There is always someone on standby to help you in need

Belgium has adopted an “official” app so that anyone can signal for help, so long as they belong to this exclusive group:

  • Must have a smartphone (presumably recent).

  • Must be a trusting patron of Google or Apple.

    • Consequently, must also have a mobile phone number and the will to trust surveillance advertisers with it (even though the app can make emergency contact without phone service).

  • Must install and execute proprietary closed-source software (thus must trust closed software and be ethically aligned with it).

  • Must be willing to leave Tor to access the 112.be website.

  • ciferecaNinjo@fedia.ioOPM
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    9 months ago

    The primary benefit to the app is expressed as not having to remember the number. It’s the main selling point that justifies the app’s existence.

      • ciferecaNinjo@fedia.ioOPM
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        9 months ago

        The app is “official”, which means there is public support and it was developed with public money. IOW, I contributed to the creation of this app, which needlessly excludes myself and others with ethical objections to nonfree software and those boycotting Google and Apple, including those who want their GDPR right to data minimisation, which implies not needing to share a mobile phone number with Google.

        • Camus (il, lui)@jlai.lu
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          9 months ago

          There are a lot of things your money is used for that you cannot use. Do you attend every university class given in Belgium, paid by taxpayer money?

          • ciferecaNinjo@fedia.ioOPM
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            9 months ago

            I would attend classes if tuition were gratis. Either way, I have the /option/ to attend. I am not excluded, unless the university requires students to have Facebook accounts, in which case I would protest on the basis that a right to an education and a right to privacy should be simultaneous rights.

            This app would be useful if it did not have the artificially manufactured arbitrary requirement to patronize Google and share information with Google that does not necessarily exist (a mobile phone number).

              • ciferecaNinjo@fedia.ioOPM
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                9 months ago

                No I haven’t. And I wouldn’t since it’s still a closed source app.

                I’ve heard rumors that Aurora store does not require a Google acount, but I’m not easily convinced because other 3rd party playstore apps still need a Google account because the API demands it. The Aurora store description shows this:

                Account login: You can login with either personal or an anonymous account

                I’m not sure what is meant by an anonymous account. Is that a shared account that Google tolerates?

                • Camus (il, lui)@jlai.lu
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  And I wouldn’t since it’s still a closed source app.

                  I thought the issue was not being able to get the app, now it’s the fact that it’s not open source?

                  I really don’t see why you are having so much Issues with a simple app

                  • you can just remember the number
                  • if you really want to make use of the app, get it through Aurora
                  • if you don’t want to use Aurora, create a burner Google account with an empty email address you only use for that purpose (I never had to give my phone number to Google, I have 5 accounts)

                  The last option might be the best for you.

                  • ciferecaNinjo@fedia.ioOPM
                    1·
                    9 months ago

                    I thought the issue was not being able to get the app, now it’s the fact that it’s not open source?

                    I mentioned that issue in the title as well as the 3rd bullet: “Must install and execute proprietary closed-source software”.

                    Italy is perhaps the only country in the world forward-thinking enough to have a “public money → public code” policy. If public money finances the creation of software, the public should also benefit from access to the source code. It’s an injustice to spend public money on software then withhold the source from the public.

                    I really don’t see why you are having so much Issues with a simple app

                    I said this is not a /me/ problem. It’s a community-wide social problem. It’s an unjust deployment of a public resource. Solving the problem for just one person (for myself) does just that – it solves the problem for one person. And you can’t solve the problem for me because even if I could obtain the app without Google patronage and in a GDPR respecting way, it’s still closed-source software in the end.