• パンダ@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Nobody is born Christian or capitalist. People are taught it. It’s not an innate property of a person. You can choose to not be either of those at any point in time.

    If you’re allowing this kind of discourse towards LGBT persons, communities, etc. but still enforcing anti-racial policies then you’re obviously well uninformed and taking a specifically and completely anti LGBT stance, be it knowingly or unknowingly.

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      I would argue the same is true of LGBTQ individuals. I don’t see how one could rationally argue that an infant emerges from the womb with a fully formed sense of sexuality. Sexual identity is a nebulous trait that develops throughout our lives, not an objective, immutable physical fact such as the color of one’s skin or the chromosomes composing one’s genetic code.

      Many LGBTQ people transition through a number of different sexual identities throughout their lives. An innate property is something that cannot be changed.

      I suppose that it’s possible that we all get assigned a hidden number at birth that defines our sexuality absolutely, and people just struggle to figure out what their “number” is due to societal pressure, but that doesn’t really jive with our understanding of human biology, like at all. Nearly every trait we have studied exhibits both genetic factors and environmental factors.

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        This seems pretty disingenuous. Sexual and gender identity is not changeable by people, even if it can develop or change over time; so discriminating against it is categorically wrong, as these “free speech platforms” seek to do. In that regard it is the same as skin color.

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          I don’t believe in free will, so I suppose we have reached a stalemate. In my mind, one’s religion or favorite color is no more of a choice than sexual orientation. But I understand that most people would disagree with that perspective, and trying to convince you that free will doesn’t exist is beyond the scope of this discussion.

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          Sexual and gender identity is not changeable by people

          Huh? Isn’t this literally the opposite of what the LGBTQ+ current ideology is? That gender identity can change at any given second of any given day, as often as you want?

          so discriminating against it is categorically wrong

          No one is asking for “discrimination” against LGBTQ+ people though, they’re just asking for people that don’t agree with their ideology to not be harrassed, censored, and banned. Pretty hilarious when you think about it - the minority group are actively calling for “discrimination” against people that they disagree with.