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  • dragontamer@lemmy.worldOPM
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    8 months ago

    he admitted he bought it to protect freedom of speech

    While on Ketamine, while defending his use of hallucogens.

    My earlier point here is about the drugs. And I don’t think you’ve really addressed my point about SV drug culture.

    But feel free to pivot and play strawman all day here. Every post that you ignore the drug issue is more proof that you can’t follow my argument here.

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      8 months ago

      Not at all. If Elon takes drugs. It doesn’t naturally follow that every decision he makes is drug fuelled. That’s a logical fallacy.

      What has SV drug culture in general got to do with this? How does usage at FB for example impact on Musk’s decisions?

      I’m not deliberately ignoring the drug point. I just think it’s a weak and shallow point, that explains very little. Having to respond in depth to every weak argument is a waste of time. A straw man argument is misrepresting a point. Ignoring a point cannot misrepresent it. It sounds like you don’t fully understand what a straw man argument is.

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        8 months ago

        The ‘point’ has been moving around because no one wants to believe that Musk just bought it on a drug filled hallucinogenic high with no plan.

        This is the core of my argument and the first post I made in this line of discussion. Sidestepping it is … bad form.

        What has SV drug culture in general got to do with this?

        Its a culture that precipitates drug filled hallucinogenics to encourage CEOs and Venture Capitalists to take more risks. My overall point is that Elon Musk is hardly alone or special with regards to this culture, its everywhere in this group and common amongst his peers.

        If this line of discussion is displeasing to you, feel free to leave. But you’re just setting up strawmen so far and ignoring the crux of my argument.

        Ignoring a point cannot misrepresent it.

        You’re ignoring the central point and basis of the discussion. There’s no point continuing if you just ignore the thread. Feel free to bring up discussion elsewhere in the forum or in another discussion point I’ve made. But why would you respond to this discussion point I made weeks ago and then ignore the very basis of it?

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          7 months ago

          Actually, what you responded to was about elections. I responded to your second paragraph because you dismissed a valid point to make a somewhat unhinged and fanciful assertion. Ironically, you’re the one ignoring points you disagree with.

          I replied yesterday because that is when I saw the community and post from another one.

          Arguing with narcissists that believe they’re always right is no fun. I can relate to Don Lemon rn.

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            7 months ago

            That’s a lot more words you’re using that’s ignoring my Ketamine / hallucinogenic point.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elon-musk-don-lemon-interview-x-ketamine-use-tesla/

            https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-e826a9e1

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/silicon-valley-microdosing-ketamine-lsd-magic-mushrooms-d381e214

            These articles here are my exact point and my exact perspective. You’re trying to tell me that these articles are unimportant, while I’m trying to tell you they are the core of my argument and that you are ignoring me.

            I’m fine with us both just agreeing to disagree here. If you can’t even accept the basic facts of my argument, there’s no way we can continue productively. If you think these simple statements of fact are “unhinged” well… too bad. They’re obviously facts on the large scale now.

            The emperor has no clothes. These are not people who are safely using Ketamine in the way it was intended, but are instead likely reaching K-hole status to achieve a psychedelic effect. The proof is in the pudding.


            I replied yesterday because that is when I saw the community and post from another one.

            So you’re ignoring the context and my original message because someone else mislead you? Gotcha.

            I dunno man, you’re trying to stand atop some kind of ivory tower from my perspective. You don’t even read the arguments here, but instead were reading some kind of argument somewhere else… you come over here to make a point that probably only made sense on that “other place” where you came from, and you ignore the points I’m making here.

            If you want a discussion, you either start a new one / new topic to make a point so that we are on the same page… or you can try to connect with my original point and original discussion here? Otherwise, why bother responding to my original post? Like, what are you even doing here?

            What is your point? Do you think that Elon Musk isn’t on Ketamine or regularly reaching K-holes? If so, do you have an article or citation to start your point off on?

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              7 months ago

              Gosh, you’re insufferable. I’m out. Carry on your hate boner, Elon fan boi (because you spend most of your time reading about and writing about Elon). For someone who doesn’t like Elon, your life seems to be about him. I pity that. Good luck in your crusade.

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                7 months ago

                Gosh, you’re insufferable.

                You come here, respond to a week-old post without reading it, and only proceed to insult me the entire time, and refuse to discuss the point of the original post even after I’ve repeatedly clarified the point (and provided citations why I made that post to begin with). And apparently I’m the insufferable one?

                If you’ve got beef, start with more context next time. I promise I’m trying to figure out where the hell you’re coming from, but you aren’t making it easy.


                If you don’t want to talk about Ketamine / K-hole / hallucinogens, then how about… not responding to such a post? You could have picked any post to respond to. Or you could have made a new topic. I’m seriously confused about what you were planning to do here or what you ever hoped to accomplish with your visit.