@kthalps

They didn’t refute their Jewishness. They “refute their Jewishness in a holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people,” which is precisely what you’re doing by misquoting them.


@bungarsargon

I simply cannot fathom the moral rot in someone’s soul that leads them to win an award for a movie about the Holocaust and with the platform given to them, to accept that award by saying, “We stand here as men who refute their Jewishness.”

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    Posting something like this would really make me reflect on myself and how I value other human beings.

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      Really? Because I’m replying to a comment that in context that I just put it in. Is stating that 6 million Jews is the same as 15k not Jews.

      Context matters. The Holocaust happened. People matter, and regardless of who they are from birth, they matter equally.

      Quick edit: I’m sorry if that’s not the way the original poster wrote it in, but I’ve seen so much antisemitism in my life, disguised in so many ways and I’m tired of hearing that I’m worth effectively nothing as a person.

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        You reduced almost a million people who were killed for their political views to “miscellaneous” because they aren’t a part of your religious group. People that were targeted first and foremost because they were an actual threat to Nazism and not just a convenient scapegoat.

        People matter, and regardless of who they are from birth, they matter equally.

        You say that but then other them so nonchalantly that I don’t even think you’re aware how flippant your words are.

        Read this again in the context that’s its a near million people murdered for their political views.

        and then let’s be absolutely honest. Miscellaneous.

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          I’m not. I’m quoting them exactly. And if that’s not how they meant it, I’m sorry. But those were their words.

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            You absolutely are not quoting them correctly. There was nothing in their post to even so much as hint at any equivalency. Go read it; nothing more than a simple statement that others were also killed. That’s it. You invented context that isn’t there to justify putting words in their mouth.

            Just thought you should know you’re looking a bit silly tilting at them windmills, dude…

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              You read it, I’ll quote it for you

              Where’s the homeland states for the gays roma and trade unionists?

              How is that not asking for equivalency? Asking for the same reparations for a dramatically different cost of life.

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                Asking where’s their memorial is, to you, the same as saying their deaths count the same?!?

                Whatever. I’m truly bewildered by your ridiculous argument.

                The fact is, you blatantly lied, several times now, about the post you replied to. Given your complete refusal to accept the facts of the situation, I’m clearly wasting my time. I’m leaving my replies up anyway, just to highlight the total insanity of your own comments.

                Breathe, my dude. Just f***ing breathe. You’re losing your shit it would seem…

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                  I’ve still yet to lie. I’ve quoted the sentence in question. By the votes, it seems like I’m the one breathing here. In fact reducing their quote to a “memorial” is the biggest lie in this thread so far.

                  Maybe you should take your own advice, breathe my dude.

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                  Update: the original poster replied to be with the anti semitic dog whistle of the day. So I’m right. Maybe next time you’ll believe someone when they call bullshit on discrimination.

                  Either way I’m about to hop into a plane to the Bahamas so I’m gonna go wash my brain of you people. Reply if you want, but I’m done.

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                    The point is that it isn’t an excuse to do settler colonialist genocide and that were it any of those groups making the demands israel does with regards to backing off of its human rights violations, people would rightly say so.

                    If this is antisemitic to you, you’re deep in zionist propaganda. The state of Isreal is not your religion. The state of Isreal is not your culture. Criticism of the state of Isreal is not antisemitic.

                    This is exactly why OP posted this.