They encourage all worshipers to understand how to stop the bleeding if someone is shot or stabbed.

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    I thought yall just prayed the bullets to stop though? Or does that only work for school children?

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    If you are a true believer your body will reject the bullett.

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      It is my understanding that they think pregnancy in the case of rape works that too way so, this 100% tracks

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    I like the idea of being proactive instead of reactive. NJ hasn’t had any mass shootings since 2019 but, the state seems to be prepared for these kinds of tragedies. Good for them.

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    Houses of worship with security make me chuckle.

    “Look, we don’t really believe.”

    The premise of their organizations is assurity in God’s plan for their lives and an afterlife.

    If someone comes in and kills them the worst that happens is a beeline to heaven, according to their supposed beliefs.

    Security (or emergency medical care, in this instance) only delays when they get to reach the place they claim they want to go, and insinuates they aren’t true believers.

    Funny stuff.

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      I argue this point a lot when I was younger and a “believer”. They always seem to take more precautions against death then the average person.

      I once told a Christian that was so goddammit precaution that they shouldn’t look both ways when crossing a street. After all you go straight to heaven want you?

      Most Christian I met fear death more than anyone you met. Even ones that swear they are true believers. I’m talking speaking tongues etc fear dying. I think deep down they all had doubts.

      I think it human nature to want proof of things and with god there is none. Hence deep down they fear death. Or they fear hell because they all know they are not good Christians and deserve hell.

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      Okay but if this article was about churches NOT teaching first aid after having been through several mass shootings, you would criticize them for that too.

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        Except when the all-powerful, all-knowing God sends in, or allows, someone to walk into a church to murder you and everyone else there?

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          What’s worse: a world where an all-powerful, all-knowing God lets us decide what we do, even if it’s crimes, or a world where every action one makes is decided by this all-powerful, all-knowing God?

          I choose freedom.

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            If your god is all knowing and all powerful, he could have set the starting conditions of the world up so that no one would ever feel the need to commit murder without imposing on free will

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              Could he? What could we know about things that could or couldn’t have been? We can’t have even the slightest idea of what the existing realities were before time and space, we just can’t judge God’s creative process. We only know what is, and what God asks us to do in our world, that is to defend and protect the victims of the Evil.

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                But you don’t know what god wants from you. That’s the whole point. You are choosing to believe the words of some dudes in the desert 1700 years ago because they make you feel good. You don’t KNOW anything about God because it’s all speculation. Yes I know, that’s what faith is. But that’s not knowledge and to claim it as such is insulting. Every time I hear it.

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                  You’re right “know” is not the good word. I don’t know if the Bible is true or not, I don’t know if God exists or not. I generally don’t use this word in this context, but there it slipped, sorry for that.

                  But I did not chose to believe because it makes me feel good. To say that is far more insulting than what I said.

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                If he couldn’t, then he’s not all powerful is he

                And if god was asking people to behave morally and ethically, then people wouldn’t be doing so many terrible things in his name

                If he exists, then he’s doing a fucking awful job

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                  If he couldn’t, then he’s not all powerful is he

                  You’re making a judgment about something no human can comprehend. It’s your right of course, but doesn’t seem rational to me.

                  If he exists, then he’s doing a fucking awful job

                  Or he does a very good job giving us freedom.

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    On a technical comment. In my country the use of tourniquets is not allowed for civilians and was excluded from first aid training. Only certified emergency paramedics are allowed to apply one now. Too many panicked well intended but ultimately confused people used them wrong and caused a lot of deaths from complication to people who would’ve otherwise survived.

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      Banning tourniquets is really dumb. The number one way people die after getting shot (besides the bullet) is from bleeding. It only takes a couple minutes for you to bleed out and die, and tourniquets save lives.

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        I agree but people were putting them on superficial stab wounds, not tightening them sufficiently, and wouldn’t control time of placement correctly leading to several preventable deaths. People who weren’t even remotely in life or death situations ended up death from tourniquet related complications. Weapons and gunshot wounds on limbs aren’t even remotely as frequent as in the US to warrant having tourniquets used by first aid amateurs. It’s even part of some EU nations first aid training materials to exclude them from lay people first aid training other than explaining risk and dangers and only certified paramedics can apply them.

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    We need to start arming priests!!! If priests had guns, this whole problem would go away. It’s common sense. So tired of hearing the liberal lefties say that guns need to go when we haven’t tried arming everyone yet. /s

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      1. New Jersey distributed these kits to schools in 2020
      2. DHS isn’t involved, this is FEMA and NJOHSP
      3. The Interfaith Advisory Council helps churches, synagogues, temples and mosques