This is such a terminally-online debatebro tactic too, making this accusation.
People like Jordan Peterson and his fans will refuse make clear statements because they rely upon vague allusions (and dogwhistles, of course) so they can play at motte-and-bailey tactics; if you respond to their poor attempt at making a point they’ll object because it wasn’t “what they meant” but the moment you ask them to be more explicit about their statements they’ll treat you like you are being a troll and that you’re sealioning them.
People like Jordan Peterson and his fans will refuse make clear statements because they rely upon vague allusions (and dogwhistles, of course) so they can play at motte-and-bailey tactics
Yesterday, I saw that with the “all governments do atrocities, actually” debate douche who refused to clarify, up or down, what that statement is supposed to imply except liberal nodding toward its vague wisdom.
Socrates, famously a real toxic asshole who spent most of his time pretending to not understand
This is such a terminally-online debatebro tactic too, making this accusation.
People like Jordan Peterson and his fans will refuse make clear statements because they rely upon vague allusions (and dogwhistles, of course) so they can play at motte-and-bailey tactics; if you respond to their poor attempt at making a point they’ll object because it wasn’t “what they meant” but the moment you ask them to be more explicit about their statements they’ll treat you like you are being a troll and that you’re sealioning them.
Yesterday, I saw that with the “all governments do atrocities, actually” debate douche who refused to clarify, up or down, what that statement is supposed to imply except liberal nodding toward its vague wisdom.
Which, again, is why you should appeal to the stick early and often.