Tanner B 🦕🧁 (@objc@mastodon.social)
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Today, Reddit forcibly removed me (and everyone else) as mods of /r/iOSProgramming, a subreddit of about 130k users. I was keeping the sub private / NSFW to prevent Reddit from monetizing it with ads.
  • aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.socialEnglish
    39739·
    1 year ago

    Wow it must be an extremely novel experience for an iOS programmer to have a company arbitrarily make decisions about what you can and cannot do on their platform

    • samus7070@programming.dev
      821·
      1 year ago

      I wish I could say that Google is better at that. It’s basically the same story but with even less humans to talk to when you’re flagged for doing something wrong or in the case of Google your former college roommate whom you haven’t seen in 10 years did something wrong. It’s the price all mobile devs pay unless they only want to distribute to a small subset of users who have liberated their phones.

      • anon@lemm.ee
        441·
        1 year ago

        when I started with mobile apps google was easy and apple was a problem.

        nowadays apple is very clear on what they allow and what they don’t and it’s possible to go back and forth with them to get something approved.

        google is trying their hard to be as strict as apple while putting 0 of the effort in to correct problems. not to mention that android is a fucking piece of garbage to maintain. you have like 4 deadlines per year, you need to update this or that thing or your app won’t work on this or that device, or the deprecation deadline for fucking safetynet arrives and they take two weeks to repair the google play integrity service.

        • voxel@sopuli.xyz
          6·
          1 year ago

          tbh i think that safetynet and other attestation features are a waste of time and should die.

          • brisk@aussie.zone
            1·
            1 month ago

            Safetynet and other attestation features are deliberately anticompetitive and anti-consumer and need to be executed with prejudice and a hefty fine.

        • samus7070@programming.dev
          4·
          1 year ago

          There was a time when at least once a month on that “other site”’s android channel that you would see a post about someone getting their account permanently banned. Sometimes it was because they made a spammy app while in high school or college but had turned over a new leaf and were using a new Google account. Sometimes it was a company who had employed someone who had been previously banned but only ever signed into the play console under a company email but probably also signed into their personal mail on the work machine. How true are the claims? I can’t say.

    • fades@beehaw.orgEnglish
      162·
      1 year ago

      you do realize in this regard google/Apple are two sides of the same coin right?

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        7·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think he was drawing a comparison.

        Mobile development sucks in general.

        • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
          5·
          1 year ago

          I tried to follow an Android tutorial (in Kotlin, so it should have been a modern one) a while ago, and the only conclusion I can come to is it was all designed by 500 different people over 15 years who never spoke to each other, and nobody ever dared throw anything away.

          I’ve never seen such a basic CRUD app (and incidentally wasn’t even doing the C, U or D of that) take so many lines of code to do “properly”. Nothing that simple should be that complex. Everything seems geared up for “what if you want to translate to 100 different languages, change the back end at any point, and individually configure forms for these 80 different aspect ratios on devices?” Yeah, what if I don’t?

          I still use Delphi for my sins, and while it has its faults (mostly that it’s closed source, and no fucker else uses it so I can’t work anywhere else), but simple apps like that are “drop a few things on a form, add half a dozen lines of code and run it”.

          There’s all these places in Android that should be easy, but because you’re going through three levels of XML files and umpteen factory classes, it isn’t.

      • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Eh, no need to bring the iOS/Android fight into this. OP saw an opportunity for a joke and took it. The butt of the joke is iOS because that’s what the sub is about. If it were for android the same joke could be made, though folks would probably make different ones with other more glaring issues that Google has.

    • sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
      101·
      1 year ago

      Tbf I’ve found google and apple fairly good to develop for(they handle app signing, deployment and more)

      Once you fork over the cash, that is…

  • Knossos@lemmy.world
    170·
    1 year ago

    Sorry you lost your community. That really sucks.

    On the other hand, welcome to a new community!

    • Gsus4@feddit.nl
      1061·
      1 year ago

      At this point, to me, it’s fuck reddit, spez is just a scapegoat that does what the board wants and all other admin happy to comply, he doesn’t own it like elon owns twitter

      • Beefalo@midwest.socialEnglish
        52·
        1 year ago

        Yep. Some of us remember when it was Fuck Ellen Pao, they seem to like their sacrificial CEOs over there, though I’m sure they get paid too much to be the scapegoat.

        That just makes me stop and think about how bad Musk loves being That Guy. The other ones will take the heat and then float away on their golden parachutes, you never really hear from them again. Not him. He keeps making new companies so he can be That Guy at them.

      • Ubermeisters@lemmy.zipEnglish
        21·
        1 year ago

        Reminder that Reddit is a massive company and they’re using spez as fall guy and it’s completely working. It’s the only reason he has a job still.

        • Mindfury [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          16·
          1 year ago

          oh yeah, but it’s also fun to bully the head dweeb who put himself in the position to be the face of this massive company.
          He’s not exactly the fall guy, he’s the co-founder who was on the “victory lap” of steering the ship after the last fall guy (Ellen Pao) took the heat and he steered the ship into another problem before installing another fall guy.

          I mean, that is unless we’re talking about who is embedded into the company from outside entities. Have a look at Reddit’s Director of Policy, who she worked for before and where, and try to post her name or history on Reddit. In my experience, it gets you permanently banned.

        • octoperson@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          1 year ago

          Don’t know if just a typo, but for large parts of the Anglosphere, spaz is an unacceptable ableist slur. It’d be great if you could find a different way to insult Huffman, ta.

      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 year ago

        Ya know as a rabid egalitarian socialist who idolizes John Brown I feel that slavery is universally wrong. So why do I suddenly feel the want to ebslave Spez for about a week?

  • WilliamTheWicked@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1071·
    1 year ago

    Thank you for fighting a good fight. You’re far better than 98% of the boot-consuming power trippers that folded the moment it looked like they might lose their paper throne. Welcome home.

  • Dalimey@ttrpg.network
    58·
    1 year ago

    Coming from r/DnDMemes I feel you dude. Thank you for putting it all on the line and sticking to what you felt was right.

  • AnonymousLlama@kbin.social
    591·
    1 year ago

    Eventually it was bound to happen. Still sad to see mods getting removed to make way for more Spez friendly replacements

  • nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    451·
    1 year ago

    I dont get why subreddit mods work or worked for free for a company that makes money from what they do ……

      • Dangeresque@infosec.pub
        2·
        1 year ago

        Look I get it but some of these people going to work for free are just screwing over everyone else who wants to get paid for their value. Also it leads to corruption in that the mods of places find a way to get paid anyways.

  • JeffCraig@citizensgaming.com
    391·
    1 year ago

    Not sure what he expected. I commend all the protesting, but we all saw how reddit responded. They didn’t give two shits. Yet people stick around in a toxic relationship with the site until they get removed. It’s weird. Why not just make the move to Lemmy before they take everything from you?

  • reevesnick@programming.dev
    25·
    1 year ago

    I’m surprised they gave a shit for /r/iOSProgramming since it’s not as popular. It’s more niche but yeah sad to hear. Glad I got rid of reddit after the API shutdown.

    • Appointee4912@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      141·
      1 year ago

      Let’s be real… as long as people act like brainless animals, there will be zoos they enjoy being in. Reddit lost nothing, sooner than later more and more people will more and more give in and everything will go back to how reddit was. The number of people who care is miniscule.