So in your group of friends, you have clearly established hierarchy?
I don’t have friends because assholes like you coerce others not be my friend - even threatening them with death if necessary.
Do you go on a date with the assumption that one of you is in charge?
I don’t go on dates - or even get near people - because you are all bloodthirsty bastards who enjoy torturing the “other”.
Have you never gotten together with a group and discussed what’s best for you all, without one person being the leader?
I’ve never been allowed into any group, because the leader of every group ordered his followers not to accept my humanity, and they slavishly obeyed. Because that’s an inherent facet of humanity - blindly believing and obeying what you’re told.
Anarchism is rejection of cohersive authority.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fuckingkillyou. No exceptions; barely any delays.
The only way an individual does not die is to submit to a group that will protect the individual, and the minimum price for that protect is their free will. If the individual isn’t willing to be the group’s slave, why would the group ever accept the individual, when the only value any individual has for a group is their slave labor?
From the comments that you have been making it seems like you have a very negative view of other people and their ability to work together towards things that they both want (i.e. shared goals). This might be informed by your life experience and honestly, I’m sorry for what you have experienced that has led to such a negatively focused view.
I can’t convince you that anarchism can be good if you believe this staunchly. All I can say is that if you look at your surroundings you could find that people do this all the time.
An example I like to think about is driving. You know almost nothing about other drivers (how sane they are, where they are going, etc.) but we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us, and a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed. This is an example of anarchy working in our everyday lives.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fucking kill you. No exceptions; barely any delays.
As for this, my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a tolerant society, we need to be intolerant of intolerant ideas, or else those intolerant ideas over time become the norm.
The same goes for freedom (which is what anarchists want for everyone)
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
What you’re deliberately ignoring is people “do this all the time” *to* dominate others. The primary purpose of forming social groups is to gang up and dominate everyone not in their social group - that’s what social groups are for. My entire life people have ganged up on me, beaten me up and used their social gatekeeping as the clenched hand around my neck, throttling my lifeblood with the publicly-announced intention of killing me.
we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us
Like hell I do. I drive defensively because I know others drive offensively.
a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed
I almost can’t go anywhere without at least some harm
People don’t crash into others because they fear being shafted by lawyers. The steel tetanus-coated rebar of corrupt law keeps the public in line.
my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
Bullshit. You don’t actually believe this. You can’t, because you are the people dominating others. Each human being wishes to dominate others - that was proven when exactly zero people protected me against such domination as a child. You all agreed, to the last man, woman, and child, that I was supposed to be dominated as a necessary function of society; according to humanity not dominating me would “bring about the End Times”. You can’t “resist people that want to dominate” - that can only end in you killing yourselves.
I am sorry for the trauma you have suffered that has left you living in fear like this. I don’t expect you to believe me, but this really isn’t the world in which most of us live, it isn’t how things really are and it doesn’t have to be this way for you either.
Bullshit. It is how things are, and I’m sick and tired of being lied to by a species of buffoons who don’t care about facts who think me their inferior. Sure, you assholes don’t live in a world of hatred - but that’s because you belong to your social groups. You all decided that I was never allowed in any social group, and that I was to be preyed upon until some of you succeeded in killing me. Don’t lie to me and tell me this “isn’t how things really are” when you assholes confessed to setting out to make it this way. You have no place to tell me what is or isn’t when you consistently discard all facts and abuse everyone you can simply to stimulate your pleasure centers at all costs. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! Quit lying to me by telling me different. Your actions will always tell the truth and prove your lies wrong.
Look, I have no idea who you are, I don’t know anything about you and we have never interacted before. You assuming that I’m part of some grand conspiracy makes it pretty clear to me that you are suffering from paranoid delusions. If you’re not getting it already, I strongly urge you to seek help, and I’m sorry if I riled you up.
I have no idea who you are, I don’t know anything about you and we have never interacted before.
And yet you still instinctively hate me, simply because I’m not exactly like you.
You assuming that I’m part of some grand conspiracy
I assume nothing of the sort. I simply regularly observe that people will do anything to fit in - including murder people who don’t. People have been assaulting me since I was a kindergartner simply because they felt I didn’t belong - and they convinced every other gullible fool I didn’t, no matter how kindly I treated them. That’s not “conspiracy” - that’s sociology. Knowing that I’ve been abused - and that nothing stops other people from abusing me too, to “fit in” - isn’t “paranoia”, it’s simply learning behavioral patterns of the perfectly amoral.
you are suffering from paranoid delusions
Fuck you, name-caller.
I strongly urge you to seek help
I’ve been to help - multiple times - and I’ve been diagnosed with Complex PTSD, from the very real and not “delusional” abuse I’ve suffered. Further “help” is not going to stop amoral people from abusing me.
I’m sorry if I riled you up
The hell you are; I’m not stupid. All behavior toward me is malice with intent; you have no reason to interact with me except to abuse me to stimulate your pleasure center. You only see me as an object - just like you see everyone else you don’t know and have never interacted with before. That’s simply human predatory nature.
I’m sick and tired of being lied to about how human beings behave - I can see you motherfuckers and am intelligent enough to figure you out. Quit treating me like an idiot by lying about yourselves. You didn’t do the homework - I did.
you still instinctively hate me, simply because I’m not exactly like you.
I really don’t, I feel worried for you, and intimidated by your hostility. How would I even know whether you are like me or not? We know nothing about each other!
I am not questioning that you have been abused and that it must have been truly horrible. The paranoid delusion is thinking that every person is a sadist who’s out to hurt you, and that some stranger saying “sorry” on the internet is doing so with some undefined malicious intent.
That makes absolutely no sense! By your admission, you don’t know me - how do you benefit from being worried for me?
intimidated by your hostility
How do you think *I* feel by everyone else’s hostility? You motherfuckers beat me up individually and in gangs my entire life!
Not one of you socially supported me my entire life - not one. That can’t happen on accident - that requires enforcement with an iron fist. Not one of you contradicted the public narrative that I did not belong and needed to die. That is how everyone acted my entire childhood - and continues to act to this day, because why would they magically stop?
How would I even know whether you are like me or not? We know nothing about each other!
You hate me because you know nothing about me. People’s hatred of the “other” is based on the fear of the unknown. You don’t know me, and you’re too mentally weak to understand me, so you fear me - and therefore hate me. That’s true of all bigots.
I am not questioning that you have been abused and that it must have been truly horrible.
What makes you think it stopped? What do you think is the enforcement mechanism that would make people stop abusing me once they start? You’re talking absolute nonsense. People don’t stop abusing until they are punished - and my abusers were never punished, establishing the precedent that everyone no lives by. It would never occur to anyone to punish my abusers now because they were never taught that abusing me was wrong. Everyone now thinks they’re supposed to abuse me - abusing me has become popular, like a fad that won’t go away.
The paranoid delusion is thinking that every person is a sadist who’s out to hurt you
That’s your claim - your projection. You are the paranoiac with delusions. I’m accusing you all of being raging malignant narcissists, which every person is born as until it is traumatized out of them through upbringing. All children start out as narcissists; only being forced to face one’s own mortality drives that out.
some stranger saying “sorry” on the internet is doing so with some undefined malicious intent.
You’re not capable of being “sorry” - you have no concept of right or wrong; only what stimulates your pleasure centers. That’s all anyone cares abut.
And the malicious intent is defined: You are all malignant narcissists who objectify everyone not in your social group, and abuse anyone who doesn’t have a social group to protect them to obtain narcissistic supply. It’s all in any abnormal psychology textbook.
I hope you get better.
No you don’t, and there’s no “better” to get. As long as human beings exist, my life will be a living hell, and things will get worse for me. You raging narcissists will see to that.
I don’t have friends because assholes like you coerce others not be my friend - even threatening them with death if necessary.
I don’t go on dates - or even get near people - because you are all bloodthirsty bastards who enjoy torturing the “other”.
I’ve never been allowed into any group, because the leader of every group ordered his followers not to accept my humanity, and they slavishly obeyed. Because that’s an inherent facet of humanity - blindly believing and obeying what you’re told.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fucking kill you. No exceptions; barely any delays.
The only way an individual does not die is to submit to a group that will protect the individual, and the minimum price for that protect is their free will. If the individual isn’t willing to be the group’s slave, why would the group ever accept the individual, when the only value any individual has for a group is their slave labor?
Damn man, I sympathize.
From the comments that you have been making it seems like you have a very negative view of other people and their ability to work together towards things that they both want (i.e. shared goals). This might be informed by your life experience and honestly, I’m sorry for what you have experienced that has led to such a negatively focused view.
I can’t convince you that anarchism can be good if you believe this staunchly. All I can say is that if you look at your surroundings you could find that people do this all the time.
An example I like to think about is driving. You know almost nothing about other drivers (how sane they are, where they are going, etc.) but we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us, and a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed. This is an example of anarchy working in our everyday lives.
As for this, my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a tolerant society, we need to be intolerant of intolerant ideas, or else those intolerant ideas over time become the norm.
The same goes for freedom (which is what anarchists want for everyone)
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
What you’re deliberately ignoring is people “do this all the time” *to* dominate others. The primary purpose of forming social groups is to gang up and dominate everyone not in their social group - that’s what social groups are for. My entire life people have ganged up on me, beaten me up and used their social gatekeeping as the clenched hand around my neck, throttling my lifeblood with the publicly-announced intention of killing me.
Like hell I do. I drive defensively because I know others drive offensively.
I almost can’t go anywhere without at least some harm
People don’t crash into others because they fear being shafted by lawyers. The steel tetanus-coated rebar of corrupt law keeps the public in line.
Bullshit. You don’t actually believe this. You can’t, because you are the people dominating others. Each human being wishes to dominate others - that was proven when exactly zero people protected me against such domination as a child. You all agreed, to the last man, woman, and child, that I was supposed to be dominated as a necessary function of society; according to humanity not dominating me would “bring about the End Times”. You can’t “resist people that want to dominate” - that can only end in you killing yourselves.
I am sorry for the trauma you have suffered that has left you living in fear like this. I don’t expect you to believe me, but this really isn’t the world in which most of us live, it isn’t how things really are and it doesn’t have to be this way for you either.
Bullshit. It is how things are, and I’m sick and tired of being lied to by a species of buffoons who don’t care about facts who think me their inferior. Sure, you assholes don’t live in a world of hatred - but that’s because you belong to your social groups. You all decided that I was never allowed in any social group, and that I was to be preyed upon until some of you succeeded in killing me. Don’t lie to me and tell me this “isn’t how things really are” when you assholes confessed to setting out to make it this way. You have no place to tell me what is or isn’t when you consistently discard all facts and abuse everyone you can simply to stimulate your pleasure centers at all costs. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! Quit lying to me by telling me different. Your actions will always tell the truth and prove your lies wrong.
Look, I have no idea who you are, I don’t know anything about you and we have never interacted before. You assuming that I’m part of some grand conspiracy makes it pretty clear to me that you are suffering from paranoid delusions. If you’re not getting it already, I strongly urge you to seek help, and I’m sorry if I riled you up.
And yet you still instinctively hate me, simply because I’m not exactly like you.
I assume nothing of the sort. I simply regularly observe that people will do anything to fit in - including murder people who don’t. People have been assaulting me since I was a kindergartner simply because they felt I didn’t belong - and they convinced every other gullible fool I didn’t, no matter how kindly I treated them. That’s not “conspiracy” - that’s sociology. Knowing that I’ve been abused - and that nothing stops other people from abusing me too, to “fit in” - isn’t “paranoia”, it’s simply learning behavioral patterns of the perfectly amoral.
Fuck you, name-caller.
I’ve been to help - multiple times - and I’ve been diagnosed with Complex PTSD, from the very real and not “delusional” abuse I’ve suffered. Further “help” is not going to stop amoral people from abusing me.
The hell you are; I’m not stupid. All behavior toward me is malice with intent; you have no reason to interact with me except to abuse me to stimulate your pleasure center. You only see me as an object - just like you see everyone else you don’t know and have never interacted with before. That’s simply human predatory nature.
I’m sick and tired of being lied to about how human beings behave - I can see you motherfuckers and am intelligent enough to figure you out. Quit treating me like an idiot by lying about yourselves. You didn’t do the homework - I did.
I am not questioning that you have been abused and that it must have been truly horrible. The paranoid delusion is thinking that every person is a sadist who’s out to hurt you, and that some stranger saying “sorry” on the internet is doing so with some undefined malicious intent.
I hope you get better.
That makes absolutely no sense! By your admission, you don’t know me - how do you benefit from being worried for me?
How do you think *I* feel by everyone else’s hostility? You motherfuckers beat me up individually and in gangs my entire life!
Not one of you socially supported me my entire life - not one. That can’t happen on accident - that requires enforcement with an iron fist. Not one of you contradicted the public narrative that I did not belong and needed to die. That is how everyone acted my entire childhood - and continues to act to this day, because why would they magically stop?
You hate me because you know nothing about me. People’s hatred of the “other” is based on the fear of the unknown. You don’t know me, and you’re too mentally weak to understand me, so you fear me - and therefore hate me. That’s true of all bigots.
What makes you think it stopped? What do you think is the enforcement mechanism that would make people stop abusing me once they start? You’re talking absolute nonsense. People don’t stop abusing until they are punished - and my abusers were never punished, establishing the precedent that everyone no lives by. It would never occur to anyone to punish my abusers now because they were never taught that abusing me was wrong. Everyone now thinks they’re supposed to abuse me - abusing me has become popular, like a fad that won’t go away.
That’s your claim - your projection. You are the paranoiac with delusions. I’m accusing you all of being raging malignant narcissists, which every person is born as until it is traumatized out of them through upbringing. All children start out as narcissists; only being forced to face one’s own mortality drives that out.
You’re not capable of being “sorry” - you have no concept of right or wrong; only what stimulates your pleasure centers. That’s all anyone cares abut.
And the malicious intent is defined: You are all malignant narcissists who objectify everyone not in your social group, and abuse anyone who doesn’t have a social group to protect them to obtain narcissistic supply. It’s all in any abnormal psychology textbook.
No you don’t, and there’s no “better” to get. As long as human beings exist, my life will be a living hell, and things will get worse for me. You raging narcissists will see to that.