i think it’s a matter of perspective. if i’m deploying some containers or servers on a system that has well defined dependencies then i think Debian wins in a stability argument.
for me, i’m installing a bunch of experimental or bleeding edge stuff that is hard to manage in even a non LTS Debian system. i don’t need my CUDA drivers to be battle tested, and i don’t want to add a bunch of sketchy links to APT because i want to install a nightly version of neovim with my package manager. Arch makes that stuff simple, reliable, and stable, at least in comparison.
In my experience they’re the same from a reliability standpoint. Stuff on Arch will break for no reason after an update. Stuff on Debian will break for no reason after an update. It’s just as difficult to solve reliability problems on both.
Because Debian isn’t a rolling release you will often run into issues where a bug got fixed in a future version of whatever program it is but not the one that’s available in the repository. Try using yt-dlp on any stable Debian installation and it won’t work for example.
Arch isn’t without its issues. Half of the good stuff is on the AUR, and fuck the AUR. Stuff only installs without issues half the time. Good luck installing stuff that needs like 13+ other AUR packages as dependencies because non of that shit can be installed automatically. On other distros,all that stuff can be installed automatically and easily with a single command.
You can get yay for an AUR package manager, but it’s generally not recommended because it means blindly trusting the build scripts for community packages that have no real oversight. You’re typically advised to check the build script for every AUR package you install.
Difference is, on Debian you can leave machine without updates for few months, while on arch you will have troubles if you don’t update for a week, also if you install Linux for your relative, it’s better to do debian based distro because of this update cycle since normies don’t update their machines every other day, source: I’m daily driving Linux for 9 years on all my machines and some of them lay around untouched for months, also installed mint on relatives PCs, edit: P.S don’t know why you get downvoted so much, you generally right but nuances is wrong, anyway, i upvoted you bro, and about yt-dlp on stable, you should install it from python pip repository to have newest version, I’m using yt-dlp on lmde6 and have newest version and it works great
I heard this so many times that I really believed arch was so brittle that my system would become unbootable if I went on vacation. Turns out updating it after 6 months went perfectly fine.
I updated arch after two months and it broke completely, i guess it’s because i had unfathomable amount of packages and dependencies, so it varies from person to person, if you keep your system light then it may work like it worked for you, if you install giant amount of packages and dependencies then it would work like it worked for me
How the hell is arch more stable than Debian?
i think it’s a matter of perspective. if i’m deploying some containers or servers on a system that has well defined dependencies then i think Debian wins in a stability argument.
for me, i’m installing a bunch of experimental or bleeding edge stuff that is hard to manage in even a non LTS Debian system. i don’t need my CUDA drivers to be battle tested, and i don’t want to add a bunch of sketchy links to APT because i want to install a nightly version of neovim with my package manager. Arch makes that stuff simple, reliable, and stable, at least in comparison.
In my experience they’re the same from a reliability standpoint. Stuff on Arch will break for no reason after an update. Stuff on Debian will break for no reason after an update. It’s just as difficult to solve reliability problems on both.
Because Debian isn’t a rolling release you will often run into issues where a bug got fixed in a future version of whatever program it is but not the one that’s available in the repository. Try using yt-dlp on any stable Debian installation and it won’t work for example.
Arch isn’t without its issues. Half of the good stuff is on the AUR, and fuck the AUR. Stuff only installs without issues half the time. Good luck installing stuff that needs like 13+ other AUR packages as dependencies because non of that shit can be installed automatically. On other distros,all that stuff can be installed automatically and easily with a single command.
I use Arch btw.
You can get yay for an AUR package manager, but it’s generally not recommended because it means blindly trusting the build scripts for community packages that have no real oversight. You’re typically advised to check the build script for every AUR package you install.
Difference is, on Debian you can leave machine without updates for few months, while on arch you will have troubles if you don’t update for a week, also if you install Linux for your relative, it’s better to do debian based distro because of this update cycle since normies don’t update their machines every other day, source: I’m daily driving Linux for 9 years on all my machines and some of them lay around untouched for months, also installed mint on relatives PCs, edit: P.S don’t know why you get downvoted so much, you generally right but nuances is wrong, anyway, i upvoted you bro, and about yt-dlp on stable, you should install it from python pip repository to have newest version, I’m using yt-dlp on lmde6 and have newest version and it works great
I heard this so many times that I really believed arch was so brittle that my system would become unbootable if I went on vacation. Turns out updating it after 6 months went perfectly fine.
I updated arch after two months and it broke completely, i guess it’s because i had unfathomable amount of packages and dependencies, so it varies from person to person, if you keep your system light then it may work like it worked for you, if you install giant amount of packages and dependencies then it would work like it worked for me