• Instance: hexbear.net
  • Type: Defederation
  • Affects: Pawb.Social, furry.engineer, pawb.fun
  • Reason: Trolling, disruptive behavior, tankie instance, harassment and abuse towards instances defederating them.
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  • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    Nothing of value was lost. Seriously, it seems like hexbear is right-wing pretending to be cancerous left-wing to drive people away. As the screen cap of Xtallll mentions, people having pronouns in their username shouldn’t be a negative thing, yet somehow, hexbear managed to turn it into something negative.

    Edit: I’ve also noticed that they claim to be super protective of their LGBT members, but then they use them as a shield whenever people bring criticism against the instance that they can’t defend against (e.g. talking about how they treat their LGBT members the best, how they love people who’re lgbt, etc)

    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think they’re actually right wing trolls, just because I don’t think I’ve ever once seen one of them accidentally “break character” so to speak (at least, I’d bet that they do largely believe what they claim to believe, I don’t think tankies really are as left wing as they think they are, but that’s a whole other discussion). I suspect it’s more that they’re a community that exists on their own site because other more mainstream sites wouldn’t take them, so they’re going to both be an echo chamber and one that self-selects for extremes, and given the small size of lemmy they suddenly find themselves being a big fish in a small pond.

      I do still support defederation with them though, I don’t think all their users are tankies, but I’ve seen a fair few that have been making the kinds of points those types tend to, mostly apologists for the Russian government. It does feel kind of unfortunate for those users that aren’t, but if a significant quantity of trolls are coming from one instance, to the point of being able to overwhelm communities on another instance, then defederation is the best tool other instances have on a network like Lemmy, given the designed lack of any central administration to appeal to.

    • Orion (awooo)@pawb.social
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      1 year ago

      Yeeeh I fucking hate tankies…

      They’re just like nazis, but they’re almost always competent trolls who know how to be annoying.

  • Yote.zip@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    This is a good call. I have seen them causing chaos in the wild often, though not always. I’m sure some of them are nice people, but one of the main problems with Hexbear is that they already have a huge established community whereas everyone else is a lot smaller, and they seem to engage in targeted manipulation of posts and comments, upvoting each other and downvoting others etc. Whenever anything regarding Hexbear comes up you will always see “Hexbear isn’t so bad! they’re just having fun!” as the highest-upvoted comment, and if you check who upvoted it it’s 90 Hexbear users. I’ve seen it so often that I really don’t feel that comfortable having them around manipulating political posts and who knows what else.

  • liquidparasyte@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    Man, what is this larp bullshit? They aren’t exactly making a great case for them to not be uniformly defederated across the threadiverse.

  • Draconic NEO@pawb.social
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, good those guys spam in threads and attack people very frequently. I’m glad that at least here I won’t have to worry about being brigated by them or having to scroll through their PPB image spam that they very often post.

  • NightAuthor@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Does lemmy have a way to set certain communities to not federate, like Meta communities for a specific instance?

  • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I don’t understand. They are joking about US imperialism, not planning abuse and harassment towards blahaj. The fact that they frame that as the US invading Iraq shows that they don’t approve of that behavior. Or am I missing something?

    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
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      1 year ago

      I suspect what they are doing is both, that is to say, talking about what on Reddit would have been called brigading (at least, I suspect this to be the case based on a number of threads I had encountered recently from the shark instance, wherein the majority of comments were from hexbear users), but in a sarcastic way. In this way, they both entertain themselves joking around, while making their actions attractive to more of their own users to join them by making it look like a meme, making them more effective, while also having the cover of “we’re just joking” when called out on it.

      • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        They jokingly do what they criticize on a daily basis? I’ve seen these types of joking from the alt-right but those were always different than this. More hateful. More about “the target”. I highly doubt that’s what’s going on here.

        • yuri@pawb.social
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          1 year ago

          Or rather they jokingly criticize what they do on a daily basis. It’s a really easy way to troll, just mirror your target in bad faith. You’re essentially beyond reproach.

          Nothing is stopping you from interacting with them further, what exactly is your issue with this decision?

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.ee
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            1 year ago

            It came across my feed and I thought it ill advised so I commented on it. Still think it’s ill advised after having interacted with hexbear users regularly now and I just didn’t find any indication that they act in bad faith.