cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/13932170

This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.

  • xpinchx@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I just watched a video about Utah and apparently Mormons are pretty tolerant of just about everyone and even though it’s a red state they’re pretty progressive on social issues.

    Take with a grain of salt, my source is a YouTube video.

    Edit: I was misinformed lmao

    • Neato@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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      8 months ago

      https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng

      “Church leaders counsel against elective medical or surgical intervention for the purpose of attempting to transition to the opposite gender of a person’s birth sex (“sex reassignment”). Leaders advise that taking these actions will be cause for Church membership restrictions.

      Leaders also counsel against social transitioning. A social transition includes changing dress or grooming, or changing a name or pronouns, to present oneself as other than his or her birth sex. Leaders advise that those who socially transition will experience some Church membership restrictions for the duration of this transition.

      This reminds me very much of the “hate the sin, not the sinner” that never actually happened.

      https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/official-statement/same-gender-attraction

      Let us be clear: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes that ‘the experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is.

      Mormons are not at all tolerant. Just because they aren’t calling for the death of LGBT people, and are still willing to take their tithes, doesn’t make them tolerant.

      • BaldProphet@kbin.social
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        7 months ago

        Mormons are not at all tolerant. Just because they aren’t calling for the death of LGBT people, and are still willing to take their tithes, doesn’t make them tolerant.

        You are conflating tolerance with approval. There’s a spectrum of attitudes one might have towards any particular group of people. Here they are with most friendly on the left and most unfriendly on the right:

        Kinship – Friendship – Approval – Tolerance – Disapproval – Distrust – Fear – Hatred

        Tolerance is the acceptance or putting up with something that one doesn’t approve of. Institutionally (and broadly among individuals) the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is tolerant of LGBT people, but it doesn’t not approve of LGBT lifestyles. It sounds like you want more than tolerance. In a pluralistic society, I don’t think that is a reasonable position to take.

        • Neato@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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          7 months ago

          In a modern society, people who discriminate against others about their gender or orientation are called bigots. I’m fine with calling LDS that.

          • BaldProphet@kbin.social
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            7 months ago

            The religion’s teachings expressly prohibit discrimination on any basis. Seems to me the only bigot here is you.

    • oatscoop@midwest.socialEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Mormons tend to be nice … to your face. As soon as you leave they’re likely to act like you’d expect followers of an extremely socially conservative, regressive, patriarchal religion would.

      And I’m not saying all Mormons are like that – there are good people that are mormons, but it’s in spite of what the church teaches about gender, sexuality, and sin.