• downpunxx@fedia.io
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    3 months ago

    poor people exist, poor mothers die, this is not dystopian, it’s the human condition, it maybe unfair, and point to an unfair system, but it’s not dystopian, this isn’t new, and it isn’t imagines, it’s the way things always have been. words have meaning. and this doesn’t mean that.

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        3 months ago

        Choose one

        Dystopia doesn’t mean what you think it does. Hint: it is not existence of poor people. It doesn’t have anything to do with poor people at all.

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            3 months ago

            my point is that poor does not automatically imply dystopian and therefor your a suggestion to the contrary (choose between “poor” and “not dystopian”) is not true, as can be seen in this handy matrix

            poverty is attribute that can be present in dystopia, but it is not a necessity.

            in most major dystopias in popular culture (1984, Fahrenheit 451, blade runner, logan’s run) the poverty is not the defining factor.

            and on the opposite side, people can be poor, struggling through hardships, but still be looking for a bright future instead of feeling oppressed or dystopian.

            as can be seen in scifi colonization stories or in real life communities in poor countries. despite lacking the wealth of the top 10% of western population, without our mortgages or antidepressants (or maybe just because of that), they can be much happier.