• Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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    7 months ago

    SSN doesn’t prove citizenship. My friend has a social and she isn’t a citizen.

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      7 months ago

      Once again, that wasn’t the question.

      The question was how can it be proved without proof?

      That’s probably the next best answer.

      If you disagree, what alternative would you suggest?

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          7 months ago

          Passports also cost money. Using those would effectively paywall voting.

          Or the US Government could start paying for it from our taxes and provide one to everyone.

          You also need proof of citizenship to get a passport, so it’s not much of a solution here.

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            7 months ago

            You also need proof of citizenship to get a passport, so it’s not much of a solution here

            Birth certificate

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              7 months ago

              Right but the question is how else to prove citizenship without that. We’re going in circles now.

              And unless your parents kept it in good condition on your behalf until you were old enough to keep it, it costs time and money for a replacement. Once again, paywalling the voting process.

              I could get down with your suggestion to use passports, provided they’re not paywalled when you need a new one.

              Alternatively we could use SSN and either allow those that are not citizens but pay taxes to vote, or update the SSN system to differentiate between citizens and non-citizens. It’s our best and most complete db of American citizens, which is why I bring it up again. It would require the least effort to use in this way.