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  • The_Mixer_Dude@lemmus.org
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    Yeah when I was saying “Chromebooks have more functionality than macbooks for a lot less” I was literally saying “Chromebooks have more functionality than macbooks for a lot less”. I was not saying “Chromebooks can run resource intensive programs faster than macbooks for a lot less” as performance doesn’t mean function and anyone wanting to play games will be better suited with a Windows gaming laptop than a MacBook or Chromebook no matter how you slice it and it the hope is for extended battery life while gaming you are going to be better suited streaming games anyhow. And as I noticed in that guys video he was having to use an SD card so we know that storage limitation is a factor.

    As far as video goes I can’t say as I haven’t tested it but I did do some quick poking around and it appears that the Celeron chip in the Chromebooks I use does support Intels quick sync so that leads me to believe it’s not gonna be too bad, especially in the area of rendering final output. I’m not all that knowledgeable as far as video goes but I do work in the production world and as far as video goes I have only seen macbooks used for video a handful of times and I’ve never actually seen a Mac used on a large scale production. This is coming from a live production and broadcast perspective (think music festivals, concerts, sporting events, political functions, high profile streaming events) so the use of gaming spec laptops and desktops are likely chosen for their higher performance, stability, and support cycle. Which is likely similar logic behind why PC’s are used for professional non-linear video editing as well.

    I did see you slipped back a little bit on the 2in1 situation though. I think there might be a misunderstanding here in that clamshell vs. Convertible is a matter of usage and need, in reality there isn’t actually a situation aside from outliers in not aware of where having touchscreen or convertible would be undesired (you mentioned some people may want matte screens but there are matte screen protectors you can get for very cheap that work great with touch).

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      “Chromebooks have more functionality than macbooks for a lot less” I was literally saying “Chromebooks have more functionality than macbooks for a lot less”. I was not saying “Chromebooks can run resource intensive programs faster than macbooks for a lot less”

      Ah, isn’t there a quote about “every discussion should start with establishing definitions.” For me, I suppose, I interpret the “functionality” of a device, be it a phone or w.e., I’m focused on what problems or solutions it provides and often I bound by the specs. Anyhow, that was precisely how I read it and was extremely confused. I understand the take now.

      anyone wanting to play games will be better suited with a Windows gaming laptop than a MacBook or Chromebook no matter how you slice it and it the hope is for extended battery life while gaming you are going to be better suited streaming games anyhow

      Oh for sure, I was just using it as an example use case and demonstration of perfomance. Getting into benchmark comparisons, or rendering runtimes, or L2 cache performance is super boring and boils down to “number go up, big good,” ya know? That being said, when you do come across a game that is Metal based it’s pretty nuts 'cause then you get the full power of the reduced instruction set of the processor without the computation bloat of translation layers, and on general applications ARM vs x86 Intel builds make a huge difference on battery life (Though, Metal games are super rare). While it runs on everything, WoW had a Metal build at the device launch and that puppy ran for 8-9 hours on battery (which, like it’s WoW, come on 🤣). I’m really excited for the Metal release of Baldur’s Gate 3 coming the first week of Sept cause I suspect it will be lovely too.

      And as I noticed in that guys video he was having to use an SD card so we know that storage limitation is a factor.

      Def, I think he runs the AppleGamingWiki (or one of them) so he’s testing tons of stuff constantly. Personally, I keep I a library of 5-6 games plus my various IDEs and various software without external storage.

      I’m not all that knowledgeable as far as video goes but I do work in the production world and as far as video goes…[rest of the paragraph]

      Absolutely. At that performance clip Apple sucks on the high end (like I can at least defend the ‘premium’ hike of the entry level MBA, but what the fuck 🤣). Sure, they have a “MacPro” that’s offensive and obsene in pricing. If you want a good laugh take a look. Play around with a few builds, it’s a wonder to behold. There might exist a rendering studio in the world that has a workflow built around FinalCut or something, but at that point an Applications Analyst should start waving the warning flag about saving tons of money switching to another application. I know MKBHD’s Production Company has a horrifyingly expensive MacPro, but that’s the only one that comes to mind. They’re trying to target speed to the umpteenth degree, but I can’t speak to how much better it does at that clip versus a similarly priced PC (I’d wager it doesn’t, but he swears by it so idk 🤷).

      I did see you slipped back a little bit on the 2in1 situation though…[rest of the paragraph]

      Correct, I suspected there was a definition mismatch of “functionality” and made arguments relative to the language to eek it out. Though, I imagine a consumer wouldn’t be likely exclude a product for having a touch screen or being a 2-n-1 (since these features are optional) and wouldn’t elimate a MacBook — however, if one wanted/expected it they would certainly pass over the device on the snap or consider it a concession. In my personal experience, I do have people poke my Mac screen from time to time since it’s the default on Windows devices. I’m curious if Apple moves to include it going forward, since they are offerring to serve iOS apps on MacOS if the developer opts in.