“When I retired I tried to rebond with my kids”
So you were always a bad father.
Exactly. Good parents don’t have to rebond with their kids.
Even mediocre parents. My dad wasn’t that great a parent and we still had a bond until the day he died.
It’s wild how these people just can’t fathom that they are the problem.
Every once in awhile these sort of posts make me introspective, they say almost exactly the same as my opinion about what I think of far right conservatives. Then I remember I’m not the one oppressing people and want to accept everyone as long as they don’t bring intolerance.
Something to remember I think is that just because people on both sides of an issue talk the same way about the other side, does not inherently mean that both or neither have a point.
I guarantee you within 5 minutes of seeing/talking to his kids, he mentions trump and dives hard into his extreme right politics.
But its everyone else that has “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, not him and his incessant need to make it the center of his life.
I mean, he admits to not being there when his kids were growing up. And he spends the time talking about his offspring’s family and their “values.” They have the kids, so they’re obviously willing to keep tolerating him if the kids get to see him enough that they are “the light of his life” or whatever. But he’s still talking about how he doesn’t know if he can stand to have a further relationship with his kid (that he wasn’t around to raise) and their spouse. Because politics.
So…I don’t think this guy’s probably on the right side of any issue they have.
But he will always love his grandchildren, because surely they won’t ever espouse opinions he doesn’t like… right???
grandchildren are still young enough to be cowed into only saying what grampy wants to hear.
When they get older he’ll turn against them too.
It’s crazy. I know I’m part of the problem too. These people need something other than factual rebuttals to bring them back into the fold but I’m le tired. I can’t do it anymore. But that means the system is working as intended and we must strive to dismantle it.
This post reeks of “the missing missing reasons”.
Thank you! I had heard that term before and was racking my brain trying to remember it, because it seemed to apply to this situation so well. My mom is like this with my older brother. They’ve been no contact for over 15 years now because my mom said some racist things about my sister-in-law and niece. But when she describes why she doesn’t talk to my brother, that is never mentioned. It’s always vague reasons like “his wife won’t let him talk to me.”
patriarchy : social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the clan or family, the legal dependence of wives and children, and the reckoning of descent and inheritance in the male line
“They don’t value patriarchy”. It’s not meant to be a positive thing you idiot.
They can’t say “Christian values” anymore, so they’ve replaced it with “family values”, and in this case the more brazen “patriarchy” (which probably came from bashing feminism) and various scattering of “values”.
It doesn’t even have horses
The thing is, if grandpa were to shut up about Trump and the sins of the gays, then his family would actually hang out with him, even if they know he sees the world differently.
I hate how politics went from having disagreements but still being civil and friendly to if you disagree on something you can’t even be in the same country because “you’re what’s wrong” with it…
That’s propaganda for you. It started with debates, but when you’re pushing for something that’s obviously bad to enrich yourself it’s hard to have honest conversations about it so you turn to hate.
“Let’s not discuss tax rates, it’s the damn communist liberals that just want to destroy America! They don’t care about tax rates, they just want free unicorns and to dress their kids as furries!”
