• chazwhiz@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    That’s weird about this to me, I never would have called Seinfeld right leaning. Like every one of his standups I’ve ever seen is very neutral, and the show was actually pretty progressive for the time. Chapelle did the punching down, got called out on it (rightfully so), and then doubled down and swung to the right because now he’s the victim! But as far as I know, Jerry didn’t do anything (In terms of jokes, ignoring the… youthfulness… issues for the moment) He just decided to bust out with I’m a victim too stop censoring me? Was there any preface to all this?

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      6 months ago

      I think it’s just anger about being out of touch. You can’t make comedy in a vacuum, it necessarily draws on contemporary culture, and Jerry’s probably feeling a bit left in the dust. But he frames it in a way where he feels victimized. That’s my reading for most embarrassing or offensive old comedians though, so maybe I’m painting with too broad a brush.

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        6 months ago

        Real problem is that so many basic things, like we should treat each other decently, or that the earth is warming, shouldn’t be political issues. But here we are. And somehow these things become political in conservative circles and thus they are political to liberal circles too.

        Now you can’t even say “what’s the deal with airline food” because even that gets political. Greenhouse gas emissions from flying planes, vegetarian and kosher options in flight, paper straws, airline bailouts, take your pick of where to go next, all political.

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      6 months ago

      ignoring the… youthfulness… issues

      What a fucking euphemism lol for fucks sake

      I wouldn’t be surprised if all his backlash is because he’s a fucking pervert

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      OP mentioned 3 prominent Democrats as examples of right-wingers. You can have opinions that aren’t lock-step with whatever the current hot button issues are without being a right-winger. Democrats are supposed to be the more independently thinking party, but we’re seeing a hell of a lot of tribalism these days from both parties. It’s honestly pretty disturbing.

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      6 months ago

      He didn’t do anything in his comedy shows no. Comedians in cars with coffee got pretty right slanted pretty fuckin quick.

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        6 months ago

        It did? Maybe it’s been a while and I don’t remember but it seemed fine at the time.

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          6 months ago

          Anti liberal ideology is introduced in almost every episode, it’s just slightly veiled.

          He even talks cancel culture on the Michael Richards episode. I like Kramer but you scream the hard r a dozen or more times and you deserve everything you get.

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            6 months ago

            Fair enough. Pretty sure I skipped that episode because I just didn’t really care to hear Richards try and rehab his image.

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      6 months ago

      He just decided to bust out with I’m a victim too stop censoring me?

      He probably finally realized that people don’t find him funny and wanted to have his name int the news again.