Kelly: Is there a downside? I’m thinking of people trying to find a parking place, for starters.

Horowitz: So we see that in places that have actually eliminated parking minimums, that we see fewer people driving at all and having cars and we see vehicle miles traveled decrease because people can get around via other mechanisms.

Well, now, would you look at that?! If we change the incentives, if we stop incentivizing driving by law, people change their behavior. In this case, they can save a ton of money by not needing a car.

  • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
    01·
    7 months ago

    because people can get around via other mechanisms.

    You have to have the “other mechanisms” for it to work. So it’s really just saying that public transportation works.

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      You have to have the “other mechanisms” for it to work.

      No you don’t. Just fix the zoning and people will figure it out, public transit or not.

      “But we can’t reduce parking until we have transit” is (a) backwards and (b) often a bad-faith excuse given by sprawl-supporters.

          • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
            0·
            7 months ago

            Bus service isn’t viable in most of the US. Taking 3 hours to get the same distance as 15 minutes in a car isn’t a functional option.

            • RBWells@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              5 months ago

              Ok even here that is a sweeping exaggeration. I can walk a 15 minute city drive in less than 3 hours. Our bus system has been brutally starved by the county but even so, to get to yoga:

              10 minutes driving

              40-45 minutes walking

              25 minutes bus (including the walking a few blocks)

    • Boomkop3@reddthat.comEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      Less space wasted on parking lots also makes for short distances between places. How about a bicycle? Or… legs?

      • Kbobabob@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        7 months ago

        That’s just an argument for building infrastructure to support it which isn’t different from what I said. WTF is with the seemingly snarky bicycle or legs comment like I’m against either somehow?

    • Franklin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      My favorite is when they purposely sabotage public transportation and then make that the case study for why it never works

    • blargerer@kbin.social
      1·
      7 months ago

      Yes and no. Things can be built much denser without the need for all the parking so walking and biking become much more viable.