• theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Since you seem to lack the intelligence needed, I’ll enlighten you! It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.

          But that’s weird, I could have sworn all you blue MAGAts promised the exact same thing in 2019. Our democracy is at stake, we must vote Blue no matter who to stop fascism.

          That’s weird, I could have sworn the same thing happened in 2008 and 2012 as well. I had so much {{{hope}}} but all that happened was a retail debt fueled spending spree and no healthcare. Oh right, the banking industry must have been punished for that, surely? They didn’t just shift the bubble to permanent debt like student loan backed securities and securities fraud?

          Damn they said that in 1992 and we got Glass-Steagall repealed. But look we ran a federal surplus, hooray all is well!

          It’s so strange, I keep holding my nose and voting blue no matter who but the US keeps getting more right wing and capitalists keep consolidating power.

          Can you explain why this time will be totally different? After all, according to your logic, if a vote for not-Biden is a vote for Trump just like you say, then a vote for Biden must be a vote for Trump as well?

          I mean, we voted blue so there should be plenty of examples of Democrats taking material action to reject fascism and the wholesale plunder of the working class by capitalists, right?

          The blues will fight back this time, right? They’ll reverse the line, right?

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            All i have to say is ‘project 2025’ is why it will be different. That should be pretty simple.

            But continue if you must.

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              All i have to say is ‘project 2025’ is why it will be different.

              PNAC

              The K-Street Project

              The Republican Revolution

              Whatever swill Phyllis Schafly was pushing 40 years ago.

              There’s always an ingenious conservative think tank plan to forge an impenetrable bubble around Washington DC for the next 60 years. It rarely survives contact with the first Congressional cycle unless its another big tax cut.

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            It’s Trump! He will win because Democrats would rather lose than run a viable centrist candidate.

            They hated him, because he spoke the truth.

            Dems are going to brick wall by running the most insufferable assholes the party has seen since Nixon flipped the deep south. Republicans are going to win entirely due to depressed turnout. And we’ll get an earful about how Bernie Sanders screwed us all again, right into the 2026 election cycle.

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            Do you think the protesters/gaza will have a better or worse time underneath that candidate should biden not win?

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              Neither candidate seems likely to do anything but perpetuate the genocide, that does appear to be the case.

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                  Ok, I think Gaza will actually do better under a Trump administration because liberals actually scrutinize Trump and rally against what he does. Whereas, we get nothing but excesses for the failures (to say nothing of the humanitarian crimes) of Biden’s administration.

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          Probably the incumbent Democrat. Losing the popular vote doesn’t really disqualify thou gettin winning the office

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            Biden winning the electoral college and losing the popular vote is honestly not outside the cards in 2024.

            Very good chance the Dems in the big red states get even more disenfranchised than normal and turnout plummets in places like Florida and Texas. Then progressives in big blue states stay home in protest, because who cares if Biden wins California or New York by 5% or 50%? Meanwhile, Biden’s running neck-and-neck across the Midwest.

            He could pull a Reverse Hillary and lose a bunch of deep red states by enormous margins, underwhelm in blue strongholds, bait Trump into saying some bullshit about trade deals to hedge the Midwest, then squeak passed on electoral math.

            Would be funny as hell to watch the SCOTUS revisit Bush v Gore after that.