• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    TBF even if you don’t agree that the economy is getting better under Biden, that still doesn’t say anything about his fiscal policy. His policies might not have a tangible effect for a decade. He’s not a king, he doesn’t decide who sells what and for how much.

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        6 months ago

        That’s literally their goal. Wealthy elites and corporations want to bury the middle and lower classes.

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            6 months ago

            You’re allowed to say it, we will just downvote another brain dead violent revolution argument. History is full of proof on how well that tends to work out for your average citizen.

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              History is full of proof on how well that tends to work out for your average citizen.

              Didn’t see what the deleted comment said so I’m not going to defend or attack it. But isn’t that exactly how the US came about?

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                And look where that got us. /s

                Jokes aside, the US Independence Movement was an organized restructuring of government into democracy that could have gone by peacefully if the then British Monarchy didn’t try to control them by means of force. The USA didn’t invade the UK and tear down parliament.

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                    Yeah, but a better example would be if Texas seceded and see where they end up.

                    The deeper nuance here is that the relationship between state and federal, and between colony and homeland, is one of give and take. The British colonies started thinking “taxation without representation is theft” because they were giving and not getting much back. Nowadays, we pay taxes and in return we get representation, subsidized goods and services, a social security net, mandatory civil rights, and military protection. If we don’t like how this budget is established, our votes elect people who decide that budget directly and annually.

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          My ideal solution really doesnt matter. When you are being strangled, to extend the analogy, you dont really care who gets the guy off you.

          If capitalism wants to protect itself, it better stop the strangling.

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            6 months ago

            So you want competent legislation to make strangling illegal via a series of complex regulatory standards and campaign finance reform?

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              I don’t think that would hurt. I certainly would go further.

              The point is that on the path we are currently heading, people will take any alternate system better or not. So if capitalism wants to in its own self-interest, stick around, then it’s going to have to throw the little guy some bones.

              When people are desperate enough, they’ll look for any savior.