• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Yeah, it’s getting worse. I specifically have been trying to grow plants to bring in pollinators; the only bugs I’ve seen on them are flies and aphids. I live in an area of California that’s a seasonal wetland; it’s now possible to drive an hour in any direction and hit no bugs. The bugs and ecological collapse might get us before the fossil fuel companies manage to murder us all for their investors.

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      7 months ago

      Keep going - I see little individual bees, wasps, and butterflies pollinating things in my garden. Purple colored flowers really seem to draw in the bees.

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        This is how I convinced my grandfather climate change was real.

        For the passed 50 years, he’s gone up to his cabin and fished.

        Over the passed 10 years, he’s caught less and less fish.

        When I was a kid, you could hardly put your rod in the water before you’d get something to bite. We’d through back a dozen fish before keeping one that was bigger. Now you’re lucky to get a single fish in several hours.

        I asked him about the bugs, and he admitted there were less bugs in the windscreen then anytime in his life. And what do freshwater fish eat a lot of? Insect larvae and dead insects on the water. No food means no fish.

        I think he finally realized just how fucked everything has to be for so many bugs to die off that fish start to die, and all the animals in the area that eat those fish. He kind of had an existential crisis, but unfortunately has ended up with the mindset “it’s gonna suck for you and your kids, but I’ll be dead before it’s really my problem”

        But at least now he acknowledges climate change is real.

      • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        I remember this pond we went to, they stocked it with bass but you couldn’t catch it because the second your line hit the water a damn suicidal bluegill would snatch up the hook, bait or no. My dad was trying to teach me to fish and I was having the time of my life. He, on the other hand, was pissed as hell because the damn bluegills were getting in the way of him finding us some bass for dinner. Also, apparently I was supposed to learn that fishing involved patience but we picked the wrong spot for that. I did learn catch and release, and maybe I got a pet fish I dunno.

        That pond burned down a few years ago. Climate change is fun.

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    7 months ago

    I see this meme a lot but is there any actual truth to it? I just drove to see the eclipse (April, not the warmest month) and my car was covered in bug splats.

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      It kinda is. I used to constantly get bug splats all over my car, but as of the last year or two I don’t have nearly as many. I’ve noticed that I spend less time when washing compared to then. What makes it even more worrying is I drive a lot more now.

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    Yeah we’re probably totally cooked. I wasn’t even alive in the 90’s, so I wouldn’t know firsthand, but you can listen to nature recordings around certain locations and what was once many birds is now not very many birds.

    I dunno. I think everyone looks at climate change and the destruction of ecosystems and habitats as a kind of, instantly apocalyptic issue, like that’s just a turning point and then suddenly everyone dies. I don’t think it’s so simple. I don’t really know if corn or many of the crops we rely on can weather 2 degrees celsius global warming or whatever, but I think it’s probably pretty likely that humanity, or more likely, some well-meaning asshole, ends up terraforming a bunch of shit before that really happens, which will probably kill a bunch of other animals and decrease overall biodiversity to an even greater extent. I think probably humanity at large would rather kill almost every other lifeform on the planet for survival before we allow ourselves to be threatened. Or, before we allow our structures to threaten dissolution, so probably “other lifeforms” also includes like, people in third world countries who rely on more local ecology and depend on local ecosystems for their foodstuffs. More interdependent.

    So I dunno, we’re probably totally cooked.

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    My dad and I take (usually) yearly road trips west to visit various national parks. We’ve been doing this for nearly 2 decades now. We’ll typically drive through the night with just a short, few-hour stop at a rest area if we are both too tired to drive.

    I distinctly remember some of our earlier trips where by the time we got fuel in the morning after driving through the night there were SOOO many bug guts all over the front of the car no amount of car washes would get them clean.

    Our last trip to South Dakota/Colorado there was almost none and I was actually thinking about this. It is very unsettling…something is changing and it’s not for the better…

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      A global apocalypse has already happened (and is continuing, within what wreckage remains) in the insect and amphibian populations. Almost no one outside a small community of scientists that are specifically in that field has even noticed, let alone has a theory for why, or a guess as to whether it is an urgent problem.

      But yes it seems like an urgent problem.

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        Nobody has a theory why insect populations are catastrophically falling? I highly doubt that.

        I mean, wouldn’t the prolific use of pesticide be a pretty damn obvious cause? Wherever humans go, we spray for bugs.

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          Yeah; I should have said no one has a compelling proven explanation. There are a lot of theories obviously. This article goes into a little bit of detail about it, although in my opinion is proffering its “death by a thousand cuts” theory without that being the consensus of the scientists i.e. “yes this is exactly the combination of factors responsible and they are all significant, we are confident.” It’s more just that things are collapsing too completely and quickly to even be able to coherently study for root cause(s).

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          Most people i know are happy about less insects in the summer.

          The older i get, the more i learn about insects and the more i like them. Also, knowing more about their importance, makes me want to have many more insects around me, instead of less.

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        I mean we used to have giant frog spawns every spring where we would have to be careful walking or we would step on several frogs at a time.

        We haven’t had one in 5 years.

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    Just spent 12 hours in the car driving to see the eclipse. The windshield does not need cleaning. Far cry from when we used to drive all over the states as a kid, you’d have to scrub the windshield probably every third gas stop.

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      Well obviously all those people driving in the 80’s killed all the insects with their windshields and now there’s none left. It’s their fault.

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    When people around here mentioned there are no more insects on the wind screens of car a local biologists checked the number of insects - and it was more or less the same (~5% less)

    But what he found out was pretty interesting: Nowadays insects avoid streets. Evolution seems to have breed an inherent fear of streets into insects.

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      I’ll believe you without questioning or researching myself because that would be a very comforting thought indeed

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        You would believe it if you saw the mosquito swarms in my garden. The quite busy street basically is a biological desert. One meter off road in my garden I have a HUGE swarm of mosquitoes every evening. Not just one or two, more like 100, all in one big flock, within 1-2m³. And as soon as I leave the house they are all over me. Only way to get rid of them: Walk to the street or get back into the house. Dusk-Time is Mosquito Time in my garden. No humans allowed.

        Edit, what I call mosquitos are two different insects around here. The very tiny ones of 3-5mm and sting like hell and the huge ones at 50-150mm (Not joking, some are larger than my hand) which are utterly harmless but also disgusting. I guess nobody expected Monster Mosquitos in Bavaria. But then we also have snakes who can spray like skunks. And LOTS of them.