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      the tracks are capitalism.

      weve been on this track for a long time, through republicans and democrats in power.

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      What’s important to note is that people have been doing it according to your politics for decades, and it has produced the situation we’re in right now.

      It kind of seems like the lesser of two evils and pied piper strategies are actually closer to being the tracks in this metaphor, not the people who refuse to vote for Fascist Lite.

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        Yeah, this is what always bothers me about the vote shaming crowd. Yes, we need to reelect Biden because Trump is a literal fascist who will end American democracy, but we need to have a hard look at how we got into this position, starting with Democrats embrace of neo-liberalism in the 90s and ending with the fact that the party is running a candidate that 67% of their own voters didn’t want on the ticket. And no, Biden and Trump are not the same, but George W. and Obama were pretty damn similar, as well as Clinton, Regan, and the first Bush. If the Democrats don’t start offering and actual progressive alternative to the right, we’re just going to keep doing this until a more competent fascist finally wins.

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      Your iDiOtIc CaSe is no substitution for a valid counteaargument. Neither of your parties represent the interest of the people. Get a third one.

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        Americans have two ethical choices in the upcoming election:

        • Change the system before election day and vote 3rd party
        • Vote for Biden

        That’s it. Voting 3rd party without changing the system prior is not an ethical choice, for it enables fascism.

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    When the old people plant seeds and water them for shade they don’t see society rises

    When the old chop down the trees and complain about the good old days of the shade fascism rises

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        Edit: grammar

        So… Iron Font…

        I don’t know where I stand on this, my introduction to this topic was from an anti-revisionist, anti-fashist Marxist Lennonist. Showing how bad the German National People’s Party failed, where one side would compromise or stall and the other would be openly fascist and they would (conspiracy or not), give up or not reclaim ground given to fashism. The german ML party and Iron Font call each other terrorists and have bad blood. So I either failed to understand something my teacher said or he was against the Communist Party of Germany or he was not being candid with me.

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          The grammar of this comment is so atrocious that I literally can’t figure out what you’re trying to say, and the spelling doesn’t help.

          The communist party that the Ironfront opposed were what we today would call Tankies. They belonged to the same faction that betrayed the Republicans in the Spanish Civil War and allied with Hitler to invade Poland. I don’t know if that addresses your concern, but I give it even odds.

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            On the other hand, the SPD was more than happy to use the Freikorps to put down communist uprisings during the time of Rosa Luxemburg, who was very much not a tankie.

            I am fairly certain that this was a big factor in the bad blood between the two groups, which predated the KPD’s turn towards Stalinism and adopting the concept of “social fascism” under muscovite pressure.

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      Did you know, in 1953, the US and UK governments overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a monarch after they voted to nationalize their oil industry to wrest control of it from BP?

      Seems pretty fascist to me.

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        Is your definition of fascism essentially anti-democracy? Or military aggression/ colonialism? Honestly asking, because I’m not seeing what I’d consider hallmarks of fascism in your description.

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          Look up the definition of fascism. There are a few. Here is one:

          Broadly, a tendency toward or support of a strongly authoritarian or dictatorial control of government or other organizations; – often used pejoratively in this sense.

          What do you call it when the American government supports and imposes strongly authoritarian or dictatorial control of government even if in another country. Is that not fascism?

          We did this in Guatemala too at the behest of the United Fruit Company. The CIA director Allen Dulles and his Secretary of State brother, John Dulles, were on United Fruit Company’s payroll for 38 years. In 1954, the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Guatemala after they passed reforms to end exploitative labor practices by United Fruit Company that it saw as a threat to its profits.

          Another definition of fascism involves the repressive use of government by business to ensure control of the market.

          A political regime, having totalitarian aspirations, ideologically based on a relationship between business and the centralized government, business-and-government control of the market place, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights.

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      North America has always been fascist.
      During ww2 Canada denied Jewish refugees. When the war ended Canada welcomed a bunch of Nazis and erected statues commemorating a few.

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    That train needs to be more rickety and the tracks terminate over a cliff. Fascists always destroy themselves. They literally cannot help it, it’s built into fascism itself. Sadly, they always aim to hurt and kill as many as possible along the way. Bunch of short sighted mental invalids.

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      My concern is not for their long-term chances of success, it’s for all the people they will drag down that cliff with them.

      As we’ve seen very clearly and with great documentation, fascism can literally burn the world down and kill countless millions of people and reshape all of human history, setting back all our progress and plans by decades or centuries.

      If it wasn’t for selfish authoritarians, we would be colonizing the solar system and fixing our planet’s climate.

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      Eh, maybe. Just cause it hasn’t worked long term yet doesn’t mean it won’t. Don’t copy their “the enemy is simultaneously weak and stupid, and strong and crafty” rhetoric

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        Ah, wonderful, stay the fuck out of the way while people who care about things keep our society aligned towards morality and democracy. Just keep quiet and enjoy the world that others have built for you. I legit don’t mind, I want to help the idiots and brainwashed as much as I want to help the rest of the population have a better future and more personal freedom.

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      This reeks of someone who uses the word “woke” unironically

      Edit: I couldn’t help my curiosity. Turns out not only do they use the word “woke” unironically, they seem to think that grown men dating teenagers is A-OK, because of course they do:

      Imagine my utter lack of surprise.

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      You reek of ignorance. Right wing parties are gaining support pretty much all over the place.

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        Not really. The alt-right isn’t a new thing anymore, it isn’t growing by leaps and bounds, and it generally isn’t fascist by any historical definition of the term.