• Shadywack@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    How to piss off everyone at LW, watch:

    I am voting for neither. I’m going to match what I care about with a specific candidate, because I don’t like Trump or Biden. [/opinion]

    Now I’ll just sit and wait for the “you idiot” comments and the vitriol geyser to blow. This should be entertaining to watch people think my vote’s going to make a difference in the electoral college.

  • rockettaco37@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    You could literally put a half eaten turkey sandwich against Trump and I’d vote for the sandwich 100% of the time.

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      7 months ago

      As an outsider, though neighbor in Canada, I can’t truely comprehend why Trump has the support he does. I sort of get it when looking at specifics (some people enjoy racism, others think he’d stir things up and create change) but the Evangelical support alone is baffling. I’m not religious but went to schools with religion as a subject (didn’t always focus on Christianity in the Anglican one but other one did) and the idea that anyone remotely Christian, or anyone that thinks they have religious values could vote for him makes me want to do the exorcist head spin and spew green pea soup. I didn’t think of that idea in a religious way just an absurd reaction to the situation but it sort of fits.

      I’d definitely vote for the inanimate carbon rod over Trump, but the sandwich has merit too.

      • ZK686@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago
        1. Trump isn’t racist. That’s a narrative the Left has been throwing around for years. He’s won numerous black awards, has had numerous black support, and only when he ran against Democrats was he labeled by the left as a “racist.”

        2. Religious people will always vote conservative, no matter who the candidate is. My Mexican family are very religious Catholics, and even they vote for Trump because they always feel that a Republican better protects their religious rights.

        3. The Democrat party is doing everything and anything to stop him from running, and this only makes his case stronger.

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      7 months ago

      Meanwhile, there’s MILLIONS who are going to vote for him because everyone keeps telling them not too…I love how minorities are told that they’re “not good enough” to vote Republican.

  • kase@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Well, this is a fun discussion!

    …Anyways, I like to think that the title implies you’re supposed to vote more than once lol

    • Worx@lemmynsfw.com
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      7 months ago

      It also implies that not voting for Trump somehow counts more than voting for Trump does

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      7 months ago

      Don’t just think about the position of president. Think about the thousands of appointments they make. It’s not voting for 1 position, it’s voting for an entire branch of government, potentially 2. Whatever you think about them, remember that it’s gonna be either Biden or Trump appointing all those positions, so even if you hate both of them equally, add up all the incredibly powerful positions they appoint and compare the sum of it all. It’s a compounding magnitude, so I cannot imagine how anyone can not have a preference when you are considering the full reach and impact that the 1 position has. Supreme court justices, federal judges, agency and department heads, countless secretaries, regulatory board heads, ambassadors and more and more, plus all the influence on positions those appointees have below them.

    • Mastengwe@lemm.ee
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      7 months ago

      Is it any worse than tankies/MAGA trolls trying to shame people for voting for him?

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        7 months ago

        Neolibs trying to shame people into voting for and keep whining when called out.

        Consider reading the title of this article.

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          No one is being shamed here. The title of the article is a simple truth. And if you actually read the article, you’d have seen that it’s pretty well explained and understood fact.

          But that’s not your game here, is it? I mean, your post and comment history illustrates the fact that from appearances… you’re here in bad faith.

          You- and MANY like you here, are seemingly only critical of the left- NEVER the right. You’ve been called out for this before. And yet, you never have an explanation for it. Also….Anyone can check your comment history in the mod logs to see how much misinformation is shared by you. So it’s no big secret anymore why you are here and what you’re about.

          But don’t let this get in the way of- whatever it is you think you’re doing here.

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            You- and MANY like you here, are seemingly only critical of the left- NEVER the right.

            This is blatantly untrue. Selective lib memory strikes again.

  • bloodfart@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    so is the line now that even though the biden administrations policies are wildly unpopular there’s no reason to be worried or examine support held for the party because the turnout will make up the difference?

    shoo!

    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      7 months ago

      You were probably taught in school that democracy is a wondrous ideal thing.

      When you become an adult you realize democracy isn’t about voting for who you like the most. It’s about preventing bad people from getting power. You will never get to vote for some ideal perfect person, and even if you did the general muddiness of politics would prevent that person from being able to make the change they want.

      Yes, it’s “the line” now. But to be more accurate, it’s always been the line.

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        7 months ago

        Uhh…

        If you support Biden or hope that he’s elected this article should deeply disturb you.

        Polls are looking bad recently and instead of having a party line of “we’re gonna change, we recognize that no one wants to suffer under rising inflation while their government supports a genocide.” They’re saying “it’s fine that the polls are bad, our supporters will come out and vote for us no matter what”.

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          I’m Canadian, and judging from history things tend to go badly for countries that neighbour fascist countries with a powerful military. So yeah I want Old Joe to continue to be President.

          But I’m not too worried about polling, they were off in 2016 because they people considered unlikely voters actually did vote, and they voted for Trump. So the statisticians compensated for this and they were much closer to the mark in 2020, but still somewhat under-counted Trump support. So they have to compensate some more. But my gut feeling is that a siginificant of the unlikely voters that turned out for Trump in the past two elections probably won’t turn out for him again. But statistics is a scientific thing, they can’t just mark Trump supporters as unlikely voters again because of a gut feeling. They have to follow the process and do the math without any gut feelings about it.

          So… the polls about support for Trump aren’t reliable at all. So no point in worrying about them one way or another.

          The real concern right now is how young people are pushed into some strange politics by social media. The Olds are going to vote the way they always do, and there’s less of them with each passing day. The kids are getting sucked into accelerationist doomerism so who knows what will happen there. Constant emotional manipulation on social media can send people down some dark paths. I used to think the kids are alright, but I’m not so sure anymore.

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            That’s not what I’m talking about.

            Media saying that it’s fine democrats are pursuing wildly unpopular policies because they have a durable support base is bad.

            It doesn’t matter if it’s true (it’s not) or if that kind of thinking has been the norm in Washington forever (it has).

            You never want to treat voters like they don’t have a choice, even if you believe it.

            This is how they turn a huge swath of potential electorate into “Biden, hell no” people, just like me.

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    so does this include the US dissidents not allowed to vote legally?

    fuck that

    politicians like Biden crafted and wrote laws over the years that culminated in mine and others votes being taken away

    not our fault people keep voting Demopublicans in

    we need to get rid of both these corporate bought parties

  • ZK686@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    “Everyone should only vote Democrat, and only vote for Biden.” Sincerely, Lemmy.