• John Richard@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Right… I mean, to be quite honest… if Biden/Trump in 2024 is the best they can come up with, maybe something like that will waken up the Democrats to actual consequences when they continue to run such shitty candidates.

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      7 months ago

      Look up how Hussein took power. Or Hitler. Or Putin. Or pooh bear.

      There will be no Democrats. Or democracy.

      Only bodies.

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          7 months ago

          I never comment in politics threads. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth and invites the kind of discourse I try to avoid recreationally.

          But I had to reply to you because a) it’s weird how much I’m seeing the word “begging” lately, and b) what kind of “begging” should he even do? “Please, please, please vote for me?” And how would that change things at all? Or even help?

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            7 months ago

            I mean the previous commenter is making it sound like Democrats are going to be executed if Trump is elected. Did I interpret that correctly? Does Biden know that? Is he worried? Because he doesn’t seem worried at all to me.

            EDIT: Anyone got an answer?

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                7 months ago

                You responded to a question I asked without answering my question bud. Might wanna get off that high horse before you hurt yourself.

                Here’s my original question you responded to for reference:

                Seems like Biden should be begging for votes then yeah?

                If you want to answer that I’ll consider answering your questions.

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                  7 months ago

                  Man, pivot really is your only move.

                  I asked you what begging is supposed to look like here or accomplish; you tried to get me to defend what someone else said. I point out I’m not them and I asked you a question; so you pivot again to "my statement with a “yeah?” at the end is now a question so address that first.

                  I’m cutting my losses. You’ll just move the posts to try and force me to address whatever it is you think I should be addressing instead, because you don’t actually have an answer and you’re not interested in a real discussion.

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                    7 months ago

                    My mistake. This is why I don’t engage in politics threads online. You never know when someone is being serious and has an actual answer and is capable of a dialogue versus when some jackass just wants to waste your time.

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              7 months ago

              I mean I’d like to think he’s worried, and will actually start talking about nationalizing marijuana legalization with actual plan to implement it, or to make internet a utility… but he seems to think backing israel and getting some 20 year old debts canceled, and then reversed by the supreme court, is going to get him enough votes

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      7 months ago

      We vote now to maintain and carry this frustration and momentum to make change. What we don’t do is shoot ourselves in both feet and wonder why we can’t walk.

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        7 months ago

        So you’re under a lot of frustration by voting Biden? Or you are saying you’re so scared to say anything negative about him because he isn’t a very good candidate and you’re scared he’ll lose to Trump?

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          7 months ago

          Stop commenting on posts and attempting to twist narratives by offering the illusion of choice. You’re creating traps by seeming to offer two separate choices that lead towards the same outcome. So here’s the reality:

          Trump sucks. The Republican party acts purely in its own interest. People who support either the candidate or the party do so because they believe harming others is an action they can support if it means some end they do mental backflips to justify. The majority of those supporting do not act in good faith in discussions and instead attempt to derail conversations with barely relevant “facts” and by making others feel as if they need to defend something, while also being unreasonable.

          I support anyone who isn’t claiming they will be a dictator. I support anyone who is attempting to enact positive and lasting change, which you will attack. I support those who do not attempt coups.

          Who do you support?

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            7 months ago

            It isn’t a matter of who I support, it is about what I support… and neither candidate offers it. So, yes I’m stuck voting for Biden which isn’t really a choice. But I’ve already been in this position before, and it is a bad choice by Democrats to have another election where people aren’t really excited about the candidate and to simply argue that if you don’t vote for Biden, that you’ll get Trump.

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        7 months ago

        Wedge driving? Ask yourself, why are Democrats so scared? If you pick the best person on your team to go up the worst player of the opposition, you wouldn’t be scared.