Why the fuck would you need to track pregnant people? Only to find and punish them when they go through an abortion huh?
now now, let’s be fair
it’s also so that evangelicals can ban recreational sex
…While masturbating furiously to incest porn on the internet.
Dont forget transfem porn.
just wait until they find transmasc porn
they don’t know that trans men exist
I’m sure they do, in an academic sense.
But it doesn’t fit the mental structure they’ve built to justify anti-trans bigotry, which is assembled on an scaffold of nominally trying to protect women from perverts.
Current right wing anti-trans sentiment is built on much of the same underlying ideas as the anti-trans part of 2nd wave trans-exclusive radical feminism:
- All men are dangerous, likely sexual predators.
- Sexual predators will do whatever they have to to pursue their prey.
- You cannot change your sex, and wanting to is either mental illness or a ploy.
- Women have a right to spaces that exclude men.
- Women in such spaces are likely to be in a more vulnerable position than elsewhere.
Therefore, sexually predatory men will play dress up and pretend to be women to get access to women’s spaces as a means to pursue prey.
If you accept all five of those points, then their view makes total sense (but at least half of those points are wrong, which is why it doesn’t make sense in reality).
It’s okay as long as their son is their masturbation buddy, like Mike Johnson’s son.
They’re just trying super hard to make America a worse place to live for some reason.
I thought voting Dem in state/federal and voting with the heart for local was supposed to fix everything though.
Can someone who is good with politics explain to me why Dems are not fighting back against the slide into fascism?
Why are these states still receiving federal funding and welfare subsidies?
Why is the compromised and illegitimate Supreme Court still in power?
Why are blue states not sanctioning fascist states? (Yes I know feds prohibit commerce tariffs. Why are blue states just giving up instead of getting creative? Isn’t legislation their job?)
Can someone who is good with politics explain to me why Dems are not fighting back against the slide into fascism?
They are.
Why are these states still receiving federal funding and welfare subsidies?
Because they’ve complied with the legal requirements to receive that funding, and so it would be illegal for them to be denied that funding due to an unrelated matter.
Why is the compromised and illegitimate Supreme Court still in power?
Because impeaching a member of the Supreme Court requires a charge be brought by the US House of Representatives, and the Senate needs to vote to convict (2/3 majority, I believe). Y’know, because of the US constitution.
Why are blue states not sanctioning fascist states?
Because they don’t have the legal authority to do so.
they could and should pack the court but I suspect until there is a firmer majority in the senate there will be a couple democrats that will happily accept republican donor money to stop it.
They should not, because when Republicans win in the future–and they will–Republicans will do the same thing.
OTOH, if they take the house and retain the senate, I think that impeaching Thomas is perfectly reasonable, and you could make a pretty solid claim for impeaching Kavanaugh for lying as well.
Impeaching thomas takes a far larger majority and, guess what republicans already run the supreme court so if they pack it later we just end up back in the current situation. It only requires a simple majority in the senate to pack the court.
Well, you see, the logic here is simple; gun ownership is a constitutionally protected right, and women don’t have rights.
I hate that you are right. I wish that we could say that the existence of the 9th counts just as much for the right to bodily autonomy but that’s not what these shit heads will agree to.
I worked for a gyne who did abortions and got the pathology reports. Every one said the same thing “the specimen contained spongy pieces of hemorrhagic tissue”. It’s so microscopic and it’s absolutely not like what anti choice assholes claim it is. It is so insignificant.
Have the abortion. Don’t hesitate. Get on with your life. It’s what matters, not a piece of tissue. It’s your choice and nobody else’s. You deserve to be happy and safe and not forced to go through hell.
FWIW I’m Christian and still incredibly pro choice. Don’t believe any of their propaganda. They lie.
An other Christian pro-choice here. God wants us free, Jesus came to stop people who used God’s name to control peoples’ lives.
My sister in law is an obgyn in Tennessee. She often remarks the socio-econokic conditions of her patients as the worst she has ever seen, and she spent years as an aid worker in Kabul.
I’ve driven through Tennessee and seen billboards from CPS that say “Don’t cook, you’ll lose your kids” (by cook they mean meth). Like they have to come out and say it that plainly, it’s such a problem.
Why do they even need a database of pregnant women? I get that GOP is trying to take away a woman’s autonomy and all that, but what’s the official public reason they’re giving?
I also want to know their reasoning too, but what I REALLY want to know is if they are aware that pregnancy isn’t permanent? The more I think about this the more questions I have.
Who is gonna update that database? How many tax dollars are they willing to spend paying people to deal with implementing this? I know the purpose is to convict women for abortions and miscarriages, which is fucking horrific…but then I think about how people keep cars for far longer than a person is pregnant and how the DMV is not the model for efficiency.
Holy shit this whole thing is equal parts horrifying and laughably stupid.
Sorry about my weird tangent… your question got my brain asking questions and I don’t think the actual answers will be much help.
“why has this woman been pregnant for 27 years? … HOW has this woman been pregnant for 27 years?!”
Per this, she didn’t attempt to create a database and it’s a false statement going around.
Thank you. I should’ve known better and looked it up. I appreciate you posting this for me and others.
Well, every birth inevitably leads to a death, whilst guns might but they’re not guaranteed to.
So obviously, you need to keep track of the most deadly kind of people, pregnant women, more so than a not quite as deadly kind like gun owners.
True, the case can be made than a single gun can result in multiple deaths whilst a birth will only ever result in a single death, but none the less the statistics don’t lie and they show that a lot more deaths can be traced back to a birth than they can to gun ownership.
A Database that stores a List of Armed and Dangerous Pregnant women. All Pregnant women are given high-power Full-Auto weapon-of-choice and a License to Stand-their-Ground. Also another Database of Not Pregnant persons and who are also Armed and Dangerous but they can go buy their own weapons.
That way it is fair and equal to everybody and no one has to feel left out :-D
This is the cognitive dissonance politicians need to have in order to be a good tool as a techno fascist for the exploitation-class.
While I am strongly against a database of pregnant women, especially in regards of the obvious purpose of it.
I am not sure if I would call it cognitive dissonance… Fascistic? Sure.
The idea behind the tracking of pregnancy is the protection of the individual “Child” and “future member of the society” against “overreaching authoritarian forces” which could lead to the death of said “member”. And the threat to the “child” is not the government but rather the mother and the supporting force would be the government. So placing the information to control into the hands of the government is an obvious choice.
In the case of gun ownership, the government is the threat for which the guns exist. The government is the “overreaching authoritarian force” and the gun owner is the “member”. The government isn’t the ally and therefore can’t be trusted with such a list.
Again I am not agreeing them these people. I just don’t think that is cognitive dissonance. I think a better example would the desire for a small government and a database of pregnant women to spy on.
Again imo idiots but not hypocrites for that (specifically… Because they are, just not for that)
The idea behind the tracking of pregnancy is the protection of the individual “Child” and “future member of the society” against “overreaching authoritarian forces” which could lead to the death of said “member”. And the threat to the “child” is not the government but rather the mother and the supporting force would be the government. So placing the information to control into the hands of the government is an obvious choice.
I,m not sure I follow here, but I don’t think the government is trustworthy with holding this information, wether it was given by the mother “freely” or not. The government has proven over and over it is not to be trusted with such personal data. If a complication or a situation change arises and the mother has to end her pregnancy. It will be used for punishment.
Cognitive dissonance
My dude got that cognitive distance
English is my second language, used spell check, without thinking too much about it! Sorry 😁
Let’s definitely not have either of those things.
Yes, but let’s do the gun one also.
No thanks. My state already has a list and I’m pretty sure the feds do too, but let’s not make it any easier on them in the event that we find ourselves in the “armed resistance” phase of fascism.
Just once Id like to meet a gun advocate that didn’t day dream about hypothetical scenarios where they get to use them.
Howdy! I only daydream of scenarios where I no longer need to own them to feel safe from the rising fascism.
We use them all the time to hunt for food. However, the weirdos that think they can rise up against the state are something else.
What if it isn’t the state so much as fascist militias that worry me the most? Is it ok to want weapons to defend myself and my friends from them?
Sure. Just make sure it’s as tightly regulated as say, cars.
Imagine a future, maybe January of 2025 and we start seeing laws classifying trans (or gay) people as mentally ill. Gun confiscations affecting only “undesirables”. People that actually really need those weapons for self defense. People that are harassed by ever emboldened fascist gangs. People the police treat dismissively at best.
I don’t love guns, or even have them for their own sake, or because of some dusty parchment written by hypocrites. I would love to live in a world where nobody has guns, but holy shit do we not live in such a world right now. I would urge you to reconsider your political priorities before you go harming (only) the people you probably want to help.
It’s not just “the state” writ large that concerns me. If you’ve been paying any attention the last few years, you may have noticed a rising trend in right wing violence. Fascist paramilitary groups have become increasingly emboldened and are rarely held to any account by the state. Left wing paramilitary groups have historically had a different experience altogether. Are you one of those people who are genuinely concerned that this might be “the last election”? If so, why would you want to risk giving this kind of data to a Trump administration?
why do people still think they’re going to do a goddamn thing against the us military with their tacticool ar15?
What did the French think they were going to do against the German military? Frankly I’d rather die in “The Resistance” than just be like “ok yeah cool, fascism!”
So why didn’t you die in the resistance between 2016 and 2020?
Did we have a different 2016-2020? Where were the camps, tanks, and aforementioned resistance fighters? OH Myanmar? I don’t live there.
I see, you’re only joining in the resistance after the genocide begins.
