• Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Why doesn’t she just take her Harry potter money and remove herself from society on some private island or something? How damaged do you need to be to want to start fights with an already marginalised section of society? What a rubbish human being!

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      2 months ago

      This is something I’ll never understand. If I won the lottery tomorrow I’d disappear in a puff of smoke. You wouldn’t catch me dead making a Tweet about it, much less fighting people over random bullshit

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        It all comes back to “Drama Kids” from school. And I don’t mean people who love to spread drama, but I mean theater kids. They LOOOOVE the spotlight, hence why they went into theater. They crave the attention, and they’re willing to put themselves out there for it regardless.

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          Oh yeah, those theater kids and their notorious disdain of LGBT and other marginalized groups.

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            You’re saying you’ve never met or known a theater person who wasn’t a total piece of shit? Because I’ve known a few myself. They’re the star of the show, regardless of what’s going on around them.

            That’s what I’m talking about.

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              I believe the technical term you’re looking for is narcissist, “theater person” is bit of a broader metric.

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      2 months ago

      I think she’s second only to Trump in the realm of complete absence of self-control, ability to hold her tongue, and any inkling of verbal discipline.

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    My ghetto-rasied white sister-in-law that loves Motown & has worn cornrows, would quite literally beat her into a pulp for saying something this stupid within her reach.

    And yes mouthy bigots deserve their ass beat, but go ahead & show the rest of us how you are so “progressive” that you stand up for the absolute worse of humanity.

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      Maybe she needs therapy (and no I’m not defending Rowling, she is trash)

      Edit: downvoting therapy, upvoting violence. You people would make your parents proud.

      • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I hate to be honest but JKR’s words turn into literal violence for trans people soooo congrats on how high your horse is

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          congrats on how high your horse is

          Quite ironic way to end a “I’m more woke than thou” comment

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                You come off as a troll, but in case others are wondering:

                She has, she’s the loudest voice of the anti-trans movement. Here in the UK it led to the murder of a trans teenager (Brianna Ghey) and an attack on a literal toddler by teenagers over the fact the victim had a trans parent. But it’s not just direct violence either but political violence also.

                Thanks to JKR, not only is anti-trans bigotry now getting similar protections to religion in court (Forstater case) which rendered workplace protections against bigotry and harassment for trans people moot, but we are seeing mass rollbacks of trans rights gained in the past 20+ years such as (but not limited to): ban on puberty blockers for minors, bans of trans women from women’s hospital wards, bans on discussing the existence of trans people in schools to children under 13, guidance to schools by the government suggesting trans children in unsafe home environments should be outed to their parents and a crackdown on DIY hormone suppliers etc.

                In addition proposals include scrapping the 2010 Equality Act’s protections on gender identity and/or the 2004 Gender Recognition Act (or making the latter meaningless), as well as bans or restrictions on medical transition for adults under 25 and suggestions in not only keeping legal but encouraging conversion therapy for trans people amongst many others.

                This all against a backdrop of what already was a very hostile environment for trans people 8 years ago when all this started with the right-wing shift, which has now only gotten worse as systemic neglect led to institutional traps of inaccessibility in the UK trans healthcare system that has resulted in several high-profile deaths just in the past two years, all because trans voices have been institutionally silenced in the UK both in the media and government, neither major party or any major media outlet support trans rights etc.

                From her direct harassment of trans people (e.g. India Willoughby) to her rhetoric projected to millions comparing trans women to rapists or more recently house burglars, her denial of the fact trans people were targets of the Nazi war crimes, her spreading of misinformation regarding trans healthcare (more recently - who invented it) normalising anti-trans hate to her significant capital backing of the TERF movement which has successfully captured the media and all major political parties in the UK and would be nowhere near as successful without her support - she may not be alone responsible, but she is very much complicit.

                There was a moment when my generation of trans people may have been the last to be severely marginalized, in comparison now thanks to her and her pals influence people transitioning today have it much, much worse than those of us who did it 10 years ago.

                So when trans people froth at the mouth about punching TERFs, you know why now.

                As someone who knows many who are personally affected by this, I believe that If we lived in a world with anything resembling justice, JKR would be paying reparations for the rest of her life for the lives and youths she’s complicit in ruining forever.

  • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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    Honestly race is a social construct formed initially out of ethnicity in a very similar way to gender being a social construct formed initially out of sex. I don’t think most people would be offended by someone whose cultural behavior matched that of a race not normally associated with their ethnicity, as long as it was genuine and not done simply to appropriate another culture.

    Like, if a white kid is raised around a lot of Jamaican immigrants, falls in love with reggae, and becomes a Canadian reggae sensation, we aren’t gonna say that he’s black (because he isn’t), but we also aren’t gonna say that Snow is appropriating Jamaican culture.

    I guess it could be an interesting question for a more open future society, whether “trans-racial” identity could eventually be something we could identify and accept.

    But of course TERFy bitch J.K. Rowling isn’t asking this question in good faith, she’s trying to be edgy and punch down, like she’s constantly doing these days. So, no J.K. Rowling. Fuck off.

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      Sorry, but the entire “cultural appropriation” thing is utter bullshit. It’s made up rules (social construct, anyone?) just to be able to be better than thou.

      Honestly race is a social construct formed

      No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries. I don’t gaf what rave you are, but I get pissed once you start behaving better than thou.

      This “cultural appropriation” fad is godawful and needs to go. Live and Let live. Saying that somebody can’t do something because they’re from the wrong culture and if not it’s worng think is the exact behavior that you’re supposed to root out. You’re doing the exact thing as the old boomers, just on the other side!

      I practice kyokushin karate, as Japanese (and a bit Korean) as it gets. I have a kyokushin kanji tattooed on my arm. I’m also a gasp white male, oh noes! Cultural appropriation! Just that, you know, I had my shodan exam taken by Shigeru Tabata himself, who is -surprise- Japanese, and who WANTS me to use parts of his culture, he is actively promoting it.

      Most (just, all) people don’t mind when others use parts of their culture, that is what cultures do, they change, mix, and evolve over time. Mexicans don’t give a crap that Americans wear sombreros on Cinco de mayo, they will sell you those sombreros to being with and love it that you love that part of the culture!

      In come the university students who know better than everyone else about their own culture to now tell you that you’re abusing Mexican culture!

      Just. Shut. Up. Already.

      Live and Let live, stop searching for and making up evil monsters, just let people be Happy.

      And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.

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        Just. Shut. Up. Already.

        I’m not sure why you’re angry at me. I never accused anyone of cultural appropriation, merely described a situation where no rational person would. I also generally think the concept is overly policed on the internet and often bullshit. I have argued for years that culture is meant to be shared. I’m a singer, and I do not hesitate to sing songs from cultures outside my own, and indeed I try to find the right way to express that song as much like the other cultures would as I can.

        Like everything else in life, though, this is not black and white. There is such a thing as cultural appropriation, and it is when cultures are belittled and not treated with respect. Participating in a culture is fine. Making your team mascot “Chief Wahoo” is not.

        No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries.

        I recommend you look into this more. Here is just one example from a quick Google search. What we mean when we talk about race is not nearly as black-and-white (pun intended) as we think, genetically speaking, and is largely something we decide as a society. Thus, a social construct. Like gender. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have meaning or value, just that it isn’t something unchanging. Like, for example, how Irish and Italians weren’t considered “White” and now are. Or how complicated things can get within some Hispanic communities with regard to skin color.

        And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.

        I’m not sure it’s possible for me to punch down at a billionaire, least of all by calling out her blatant transphobia. I’m also not sure how taking swings at her means I’m not writing in good faith. I suspect you’re just upset and I’m not entirely sure why. Take a deep breath, my friend.

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          I’m with you approximately %100.

          One thing I’ve done when arguing with a person that insists race is real and meaningful is to ask the other person how many races they think there are.

          It gets the gears turning a bit.

          European, African, East Asian, Arabic, South Asian, Indigenous Australian, Indigenous New Zealander/Pacific Islanders (same or different?), North American Indigenous, South American Indigenous? are Mexico’s Indigenous people the same race as Amazonians? Peru? Are they the same race as the Inuit of the arctic?

          etc etc

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              From your link:

              In the study of race and health, scientists organize people in racial categories depending on different factors such as: phenotype, ancestry, social identity, genetic makeup and lived experience.

              Overall, racial health disparities appear to be rooted in social disadvantages associated with race such as implicit stereotyping and average differences in socioeconomic status.

              Cool cool I’m now totally convinced race is meaningful. How many races would you say there are? I probably agree.

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                yes, yes, you found a paragraph to be clever with, I’m so destroyed by facts and logic. (I wouldn’t try count myself…a fucking lot.)

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                  If there are “a fucking lot” of races, are you sure you mean races, and not ethnicities?

                  I think race means like, “well there are several races of people: white people, black people, yellow people, brown people and red people” …

  • Th4tGuyII@kbin.social
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    It’s such a bad faith comparison to make about trans people.
    One’s race oftentimes comes with a slew of cultural background, and misappropriation of that isn’t cool.

    Gender meanwhile is just a societal constrict built of the typical characteristics of the sexes - if you don’t line up with the one given to you at birth, then there’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to identify with what you do line up with.

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      Nah, I’m not with you. Gender also comes with cultural background, and physical characteristics, very much like race. And yes, if you feel deeply aligned with black culture as a white born person, fuckin go for it. Besides, we are all listening to blues and rock n hip hop — all “black music” — so what’s the problem? Am I only allowed to listen to Tchaikovsky if I’m Russian? The whole set of mental gymnastics can go fuck itself, all cultures and races influenced each other for all of history. Is anybody mad about Thai people opening cannabis dispensaries and wearing Cookies merch & baseball hats? No, go ahead and “appropriate” whatever you want from me

      identify with what you do line up with

      Or don’t, I don’t give a fuck, this doesn’t really affect my life. Wanna get surgery to look like a goat with some neat horns? Sweet, good luck

      Ok let’s do the honest hard questions. Should mtf ppl be allowed to do all female sports? No, probably not, it’s generally not fair. Should ftm be allowed to do all male sports? Sure. Should bathrooms just be all gender bathrooms? Yeah, probably fine, maybe add some panic buttons. Should people under 18 be allowed to get a sex change? Only if they parents sign off on it, they are the legal guardians. Maybe it’ll feel like a mistake later, maybe not, but the family is in the best position to decide. Are microplasics fucking up hormones in pretty much all living things? EPA says yes, and that’s a concern

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    Wow I thought she was perhaps subtle about her hatred, and that’s why she isn’t universally rejected yet, but apparently that’s not the case:

    Calling a man a man is not ‘bullying’ or ‘punching down.’ Crossdressing straight men are currently one of the most pandered-to demographics in existence, and women are under no obligation to applaud the people caricaturing us. — J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) May 12, 2024

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      and that’s why she isn’t universally rejected yet,

      Have you seen any fascist being “universally rejected” yet?

      I sure haven’t.

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    If you’ve read Harry Potter at any age older than 12 you’re not a serious person. Whenever I meet an adult who says they’re into Harry P. I’ll secretly judge them and avoid them. The same applies to adult MCU aficionados. So please stop giving her waaay more attention than her silly scribblings for half-wits make her deserve