If the DNC hadn’t steamrolled Bernie, I’m reasonably certain that he would be handling Gaza and Ukraine a bit differently. Just based on what he’s said and voted on as a senator.
Yep. Therefore we’d better vote for the other fellows, the ones who wish to do more genocide even faster while beating the shit out of protesters with the National Guard.
I agree that genocide is horrendous, but you seem to be missing the fact that your alternatives are voting for the candidate that has publicly pressured Israel to stop, and withheld weapons, or voting for the candidate that wants to arrest and deport people that oppose the genocide, and has actively urged it on.
Not voting means you don’t care who wins: The candidate trying, at least somewhat, to reduce the scale of the genocide, or the candidate urging for it to increase in scale.
In that case, you are complicit if the latter wins, and the genocide gets worse.
No, Biden is complicit. If enough voters make it clear he has two choices: abandon Israel or we’ll elect Trump, then it’s his fault when Trump is elected for continuing to support genocide.
Politicians work for us, they have a responsibility. Not the other way around.
Okay… so we should vote for the guy who thinks Israel is right and needs to “finish the job.”
“I don’t know why they released wartime shots like that. I guess it makes them look tough. But to me, it doesn’t make them look tough,” Trump continued. “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”
You can vote for the guy who isn’t doing enough to stop the atrocities in Gaza, or you can vote for the guy who just wants Israel to hurry up. There is no other option.
Since other users are providing solid arguments to convince and challenge you I’ll speak bluntly: You’re an idiot and should not have any attention paid to you. Not because you condemn the situation in Gaza, because you do so at the absolute disregard for other issues that are plaguing us. If you’re younger: Learn. If you’re older: Wake up.
You can condemn one thing while supporting a necessary other because there will be a need for people like you after Biden is put into office. Just like there will be a desperate need if Trump wins instead. That second situation? I sincerely hope you won’t disappear out of fear of retribution, because there will be retaliation then at a scale I hesitate to try and guess at should people stand.
Trump just announced he will “crush” pro-Palestinian protesters in the US.
Regardless of your opinion of Biden, he does not have an anti-free-speech position.
If you continue to focus on destroying Biden before an election, you will get Trump—who is going to be worse.
To get to your destination, you have to carefully navigate the boat through rough waters. If you let go of the wheel to scream at the rapids, you will lose control entirely.
Then vote third party, and keep complaining that Biden didn’t do enough if Trump gets elected again.
What else do you want? Your system is rigged against progressives. The electoral college gives more weight to smaller states, which are predominantly Republicans.
That’s fucked up, but people have to vote in a few months. So you either vote for someone that enables the genocide, someone that will make the genocide worse and a third party which will effectively do nothing.
Stops trying to take attention from the genocide he’s actively supporting with our tax dollars.
What US president would be doing anything different.
If the DNC hadn’t steamrolled Bernie, I’m reasonably certain that he would be handling Gaza and Ukraine a bit differently. Just based on what he’s said and voted on as a senator.
What do you think he would do differently?
Push hard for more aid to Ukraine and no aid, other than humanitarian aid to Israel.
Though most likely Boeing or some other corporate entity would have assassinated him by now
How would he get around this? The US is obliged to send weapons by law.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/biden-israel-weapons-policy-00158210
That’s what he would be pushing to revise with Congress
No, my rights do not supercede the rights of others. Especially when those other rights are being denied via slaughter by the US.
Genocide is bad enough to outweigh all the good.
Yep. Therefore we’d better vote for the other fellows, the ones who wish to do more genocide even faster while beating the shit out of protesters with the National Guard.
These dipshits don’t understand that they’ll be genocided themselves if Trump wins.
I agree that genocide is horrendous, but you seem to be missing the fact that your alternatives are voting for the candidate that has publicly pressured Israel to stop, and withheld weapons, or voting for the candidate that wants to arrest and deport people that oppose the genocide, and has actively urged it on.
Not voting means you don’t care who wins: The candidate trying, at least somewhat, to reduce the scale of the genocide, or the candidate urging for it to increase in scale.
In that case, you are complicit if the latter wins, and the genocide gets worse.
No, Biden is complicit. If enough voters make it clear he has two choices: abandon Israel or we’ll elect Trump, then it’s his fault when Trump is elected for continuing to support genocide.
Politicians work for us, they have a responsibility. Not the other way around.
Okay… so we should vote for the guy who thinks Israel is right and needs to “finish the job.”
You can vote for the guy who isn’t doing enough to stop the atrocities in Gaza, or you can vote for the guy who just wants Israel to hurry up. There is no other option.
Other people responding are being too nice imho.
Since other users are providing solid arguments to convince and challenge you I’ll speak bluntly: You’re an idiot and should not have any attention paid to you. Not because you condemn the situation in Gaza, because you do so at the absolute disregard for other issues that are plaguing us. If you’re younger: Learn. If you’re older: Wake up.
You can condemn one thing while supporting a necessary other because there will be a need for people like you after Biden is put into office. Just like there will be a desperate need if Trump wins instead. That second situation? I sincerely hope you won’t disappear out of fear of retribution, because there will be retaliation then at a scale I hesitate to try and guess at should people stand.
Trump just announced he will “crush” pro-Palestinian protesters in the US.
Regardless of your opinion of Biden, he does not have an anti-free-speech position.
If you continue to focus on destroying Biden before an election, you will get Trump—who is going to be worse.
To get to your destination, you have to carefully navigate the boat through rough waters. If you let go of the wheel to scream at the rapids, you will lose control entirely.
Then vote third party, and keep complaining that Biden didn’t do enough if Trump gets elected again.
What else do you want? Your system is rigged against progressives. The electoral college gives more weight to smaller states, which are predominantly Republicans.
That’s fucked up, but people have to vote in a few months. So you either vote for someone that enables the genocide, someone that will make the genocide worse and a third party which will effectively do nothing.
Stop pretending you care about Gaza. If you did, you’d see that the other choice this November would be catastrophically worse.
Just come out and say who you’d vote for. Stop virtue signaling.
My tax dollars not yours