Ministers propose the ban after a series of Quran burnings led to uproar in Muslim countries.
  • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    Sure it is. Intent is what separates murder from manslaughter for instance. Intent definitely matters here. Why are you having trouble elaborating on that aspect of your hypothetical scenario.

    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Fine, two scenarios: first, I’m doing it because I’m Islamophobic. Second, I’m doing it to test the limits of free speech. Can you tell the difference? No. That’s why it’s not relevant.

      • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        You don’t see the difference between these two scenarios? It may benefit you to learn about nuance.

          • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
            11·
            1 year ago

            What you’re saying here doesn’t make any sense. What you said previously made sense but lacked nuance or any deeper understanding of the situation you proposed yourself.

            Perhaps you think blatant, ignorant bigotry and “testing freedom of speech” are the same thing, which explains your response, and shows you the reasoning behind mine.

            • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              1 year ago

              Oh boy. No, I don’t think they are the “same thing” I’m saying you can’t infer motivation just by observing therefore the motivation isn’t relevant. Try and keep up, or don’t.

              • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
                11·
                1 year ago

                You’re discussing the law and being arrested. Intent absolutely matters in this context which is why I brought up other examples of where intent matters as murder/manslaughter, hate crimes, assault versus self defense, etc. You seem quite confused about a topic that you brought up on your own…

                • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  1 year ago

                  You’re not thinking clearly. Intent is irrelevant, it can’t be known in this example. Got it?

                  Just in case, here it is again. Intent is irrelevant.

                  • CmdrShepard@lemmy.oneEnglish
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    But you defined the intent in your previous comment and laws/courts take intent into account when determining whether they’ve been violated or not.

                    If it can’t be known then your entire question/scenario is irrelevant and pointless because it could never apply to the real world. For someone who keeps talking about confusion and not following the conversation, you seem to lack even a basic understanding of what’s being talked about.