• A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      Agnostic atheists and gnostic atheists are both atheists. Assuming all atheists are gnostic atheists is like assuming all Christians are Catholics.

      Gnostic atheists are rare, and if you want evidence look at this thread.

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        4 days ago

        This has become a misunderstanding of language and wording.

        When I say agnostic, that includes “agnostic atheists”. Does that clear things up?

        I swear some people (i.e. self proclaimed “atheists”) get offended at the thought that they might be associated with anyone religious by accepting the fact that their beliefs are, by definition, agnostic.

        I’m tapping out of this thread, didn’t come here to argue about English. Also, please don’t take my last paragraph as an attack - it’s a general observation.

        • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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          4 days ago

          No, this was your misunderstanding:

          Atheists on the other hand can say “look, there is no god… See?”

          The language is irrelevant, you’re claiming something that’s just untrue for 99% of atheists. You going on to distinguish “agnostics” from “atheists” isn’t the real issue.